4 year degree vs a 2 year degree

I think it was a reference that a person can't make enough money to live on their own; hence having to move in with their parents.

 

Don't send your kids to a private university if they want to get a liberal arts degree.

 

DON'T DO IT. DO NOT LET HER MOVE IN. IT'S A HUGE MISTAKE.

 

Minimum wage employees will make $9.10 an hour in Oregon starting January 1, 2014, which is up $0.15 per hour from the current $8.95 minimum

 

Thank you for the titillating factoid.

 

Hey, mine lives with us now. But she also has full separate quarters with a bedroom (and fireplace), full kitchen, bathroom with soaking tub, etc. You will learnt to appreciate space.

 

So basically you have two houses.

 

No. Not really. There's not technically a separate entrance to that part of the house. It's a huge house with nanny's quarters, or mother-in-law quarters. Previous owners had an in-house nanny. But there's nothing separate about it. I go downstairs, and the hall splits - you either go into her room or you go into the theater room.

 

mobes, I'm interested in your stories.

 

I know I'm late to the party on this one but in my job there are a lot of 2, 4 and 8 year degrees. The more school you get the higher off your start pay is, your more of a "shot calller", you have a much higher advancement ceiling, as well as more diversity among positions available. From instance a 2 year degree gets you pretty much an operator and/or maintenance tech where you start around $40,000 can top out around $120,000, limited job but very specific job duties nice pay and benefits but thats the most of it. 4 year degrees start at $60,000 and really have no top as you can advance in many different areas potentially all the way to CEO, they also usually own the equipment that the 2 year degree works on. 8 year degrees start around $105,000 again with no top out, they are essentially being hired in as a 4 year degree who has been promoted a few times. Also with 4/8 year degrees people are able to move around more and work in areas not specific to their degree's. Like an engineer can move into management.

The main advantage of a 2 year degree over the others is money. I got a 2 year degree and had all my school paid for by the company, and even if I paid for it, it would have been long since paid off by now. 4 and 8 year degrees are often on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars after they graduate, a house payment without a house.

My advice, is get the 4 or 8 if your kids have the aptitude for it, money can be an issue but as others have stated there are cheaper ways to do it, otherwise push them for a technical or apprentice type learning. If they go the 2 year school route, try steer them towards classes that also apply to a 4 year degree, should they decided to go that route later.

*note I said 8 year degree for ease of typing, when I meant masters/phd which is usually a 6-10 commitment.

 

GUN CONTROL!!!

 

It's also pretty misleading when people talk about a 4 year degree costing "hundreds of thousands of dollars". That just isn't true.

Oregon State:
tuition is $8500 / year.
room and board is $10,500 / year

So it is less than $20k / year. A 4 year degree is $80k. That isn't close to "hundreds of thousands"

Also, there are so many scholarships that go unused that people can receive if they put in a little work.

 

Good points, but that is dependent on the school and in state tuition I assume. There are plenty of more expensive schools out there, but there is also cheaper ways to do it, like 2 year transfer degree. $80k is still a lot, especially if you get a degree is something thats not very marketable.

My 2 year degree cost me about $15k by the way.

 

Agreed. But I first wrote this:

 

You're being quite generous on the room and board price too. I lived in a two bedroom apartment within walking distance of campus. It was $550 per month (so only $275 for me) and included water, sewer, garbage. So I just had to split internet, cable and electricity on top of that.

Living on campus is horrendously overpriced

 

You could probably save a lot living with your parents.

 

Knowing some people who have done that, they are usually much more dependant on other people and are naive about the world and success.

So, no thanks.

Also, it's a lot harder to live with your parents in Portland if you're going to uo or osu. Going to those schools is a college experience, everyone I know that went to either loved it. My buddies that went to psu hated it.

 

I thought mj didn't graduate either?