4K televisions are a waste of money

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    it's all gimmicks. they dont give a shit about the consumer, just swindling you.
     
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    Talked to the guy @ Magnolia who went to the Oppo training sessions. He said that they're manufacturing them such that the 60Hz 4k will be upgradable through a firmware or box mod, rather than having to get a new system, and that the standards will probably be set summer of next year (though they said that about this year). With my inability to set up a sound system that I want (towers and speakers and big shiny boxes do not match with the "décor" that Mrs. FromWA wants in her home) I'm about to pull the trigger on the Oppo 105D for basically future-proof (with upgrades) 4k video, audiophile components (I got a set of B&W P7 headphones that I still need to find an extension cable for--the ones at BB and Radio Shack were both lossy/static-y as heck) and the ability to be an all-in-one audio/video solution. I can sell my receiver and the towers in storage. :sigh:

    For guys like Bob and others who know more about components than I do: is a standard HDMI cable "good enough" for a one-cord HDMI setup for about 6' from Oppo to TV (which I've always thought, since HDMI is a standard in and of itself) or do I need something more exotic? And other than DiMarzio, anyone have a preferred headphone extension (probably 8' at most)?

    Thanks.
     
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    There was a sweet 70" Vizio 4KTV at Costco the other day for $2K. Also had a 60" for $1600. Drool.

    Those screen sizes are where 4K starts to make sense. Especially if you don't sit to far back from the TV.
     
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    Any of you guys ever rip your DVD's and Blu-rays for backup...and occasionally re-edit a scene for giggles?

    I did this to 'Stand By Me' and 'Super 8'...dunno...just cuz. This is if Michael Bay ever decided to make a coming-of-age kid story with a classic "train dodge" scene.

    [video=youtube;dX4EyViBce4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX4EyViBce4&list=UUuU1LB98mt71c_8b1Io4ZMQ[/video]
     
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    CNET gives that TV 3.5 stars.

    http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-p-series/

    "The Bottom Line Despite great contrast and a market-busting price, the Vizio P series has too many picture quality flaws to claim the Holy Grail of 4K TV value."

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't feature 3D. If I bought one of these TVs, I'd want the 3D capability.

    My advice is to use a tape measure to measure the distance from where you would sit and where the TV would be. Then go to a store where they're on display and measure out the distance. Judge for yourself.

    Personally, at 10' or more, I can definitely tell the 4K picture is way better than HD of the same size screen.
     
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    Interesting. I looked at both the Vizio's and a 75" Samsung and the Vizio just by default felt less aggressive with processing. Dunno--all I care about is if it's relatively easy to calibrate. I could perceive good dynamic range and damn, the price for that size was sweet.

    With you on 3D--I'm one of the rare fans of the good 3D stuff but it is so few and far between. It might be a good idea to get a 3D capable set while they're still being made.
     
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    I think 3D may actually make it big with UHD sets supporting it. People will be buying for the UHD and they'll get 4 sets of glasses in the box and might be open to trying 3D content.

    A lot of people liken UHD to the 3D fiasco. I'm quite sure UHD is going to be widely adopted, unlike 3D to date. However, I see lots of 3D DVD players and capable TVs for sale still.
     
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    I'm fine if 3D is just a throw-in, but it seems like the trend is for the less expensive 4KTV's coming out to just be 2D.

    3D will be niche until it looks relatively natural and doesn't require glasses. Oh well
     
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    Denny--what's your favorite 3D flick? Mine is actually one of my kids faves--Coraline.
     
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    I don't have a favorite, and I don't have a 3D capable TV.

    In the theaters, Gravity was awesome. Saw Guardians of the Galaxy in 3D and it was really good. Avatar was great in 3D.

    Having 3D capable UHD means you get the choice of buying or watching a movie in 3D or not.
     
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    Whoops, deleted that as I meant to rephrase the question. Ah well.

    Prometheus was actually better in 3D.
     
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    Drunk with power, eh Denny? Fascist!!
     
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    Denny, since you seem to be quite knowledgable on the subject--any 4KTV recommendations as far as bang-for-the-buck? I've been tempted by the LG's in the $1400-$2K range.
     

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