Oh well, I think it's stupid to speculate what could've been. Chicago made the right move, leave it at that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If Philly took Jordan they would not have gotten Barkley because both were part of the 84 draft (MJ 3rd, Barkley 5th).</div>but weren't they offering dr. j for the third pick so they would have had both picks? I didn't see a draft pick being part of the deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Apr 19 2007, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>so if I understand you, you're saying you'd trade a guy who's still averaging 25-10 and another guy who's still averaging 30-6-6-3 so you can get the last record in the league and have a 30% chance at getting a guy who will get you one finals appearance, as opposed to keeping two guys who will win you another few rings. Brilliant.</div>No not trade them and tank. I mean trade one of them to the team who will end up with that pick on draft night.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Apr 19 2007, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, let's trade Jordan because he is old. Never mind the fact that he won 3 NBA titles AFTER 1996.</div>No not Jordan trade the older guy to pair AI up with Jordan. You don't have to tank the season just trade when you know who has the pick for sure.
I guess that would of worked. If Jordan and AI would of been on the same team Iverson would of never did that crossover on Jordan lol. Serously though I dont think AI and Jordan would of worked at all though. Everything worked out just fine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Apr 20 2007, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No not trade them and tank. I mean trade one of them to the team who will end up with that pick on draft night.No not Jordan trade the older guy to pair AI up with Jordan. You don't have to tank the season just trade when you know who has the pick for sure.</div>Yes, obviously the team with the #1 pick in 1996 definitely would have traded it for "the older guy"... Please.
True.....Who knows maybe AI would of ended up a Bull if the bulls would been bad and got the number 1 pick in 96 who knows.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 20 2007, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about this Serge, with this trade, AI would never be a Sixer.</div>Meaning Serge would not have started following basketball... and wouldn't be here right now.sh*t...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dagameplayer @ Apr 20 2007, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess that would of worked. If Jordan and AI would of been on the same team Iverson would of never did that crossover on Jordan lol. Serously though I dont think AI and Jordan would of worked at all though. Everything worked out just fine.</div>Why would they not work again? Just like AI/Melo have not worked right? LOL<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Apr 20 2007, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes, obviously the team with the #1 pick in 1996 definitely would have traded it for "the older guy"... Please.</div>A guy who is still one of the top in the league Yeah why not. You make no sence. :no1:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 20 2007, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about this Serge, with this trade, AI would never be a Sixer.</div>Again they could have traded one of the stars for that 1st pick and still got AI to pair with Jordan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Apr 19 2007, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People thought Jordan was a star, just not in the way they thought of LeBron James or something. Dean Smith had a loaded team at North Carolina and didn't use MJ's ability all that much. Hence, not to many in the basketball world knew what he was to become. And the Blazers wouldn't have been that great if they picked Jordan, they would have had like 35 shooting guards. Ooooh.</div>watchoo talkin bout? youre saying that clyde drexler and michael jordan playing together would make an average team? even w/o michael, those blazers still got to the finals twice in three years. anyways, bowie was the crappiest draft selection ever, and its good that chicago denied that trade offer. I wonder how much things would have changed by now if that trade actually happened tho.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Apr 21 2007, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would they not work again? Just like AI/Melo have not worked right? LOLA guy who is still one of the top in the league Yeah why not. You make no sence. :no1:Again they could have traded one of the stars for that 1st pick and still got AI to pair with Jordan.</div>1. AI/Melo is different than AI/Jordan. AI and Jordan would have never worked, period, and both would have been in the wrong for that one. All of it wouldn't fall on AI, and all of the blame wouldn't fall on Jordan... it would be on both. I just can't see a team working with those two personalities on the court at the same time.2. Yes, as a NBA general manager you are going to trade a future NBA star coming out of college for a guy who would be retiring in a few years anyway? Yeah, like that will happen, especially when you had a sure thing like Iverson coming out that year (that is what everybody regarded him as).Look at it like this: If the Lakers offered Kobe Bryant (who is younger than both Jordan and Barkley were back in 1995-96) to which ever team lands the #1 pick. Will that team accept that deal? As great as Kobe is, I doubt they would pass up Greg Oden. Same thing in 1996.You just seem to think that making a trade or a move is so easy, but it isn't. "We could have traded this guy for the #1 pick." You probably think we could trade Bobby Jones for the #1 pick this year, right?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Again they could have traded one of the stars for that 1st pick and still got AI to pair with Jordan.</div>Dude, this is why your a just a Iverson fan and not a Sixer fan. If Sixers trade for Jordan, you still want them to somehow maneuver a dreamland trade for the 1st pick in the 1996 draft to 'oh what a coincidink' draft your boy Iverson. And not only that but expect a team to even think of trading the 1st overall pick in one of the stellar drafts of all-time. Go in the corner NOW!<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Just like AI/Melo have not worked right?</div>It hasn't, for it to work they'll have to win a championship. *Checks his crystal ball*. I see nothing. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>True.....Who knows maybe AI would of ended up a Bull if the bulls would been bad and got the number 1 pick in 96 who knows.</div>Yes, but common sense would say the chances of Iverson becoming a Sixer still after this possible trade are slim. It's a good 12 years, domino effect people. Cards fall a different way and take a different path for the Sixers. That path is more than likely not taking the same way that led to Sixers getting the 1st overall pick in 96'. It's common sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Apr 21 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. AI/Melo is different than AI/Jordan. AI and Jordan would have never worked, period, and both would have been in the wrong for that one. All of it wouldn't fall on AI, and all of the blame wouldn't fall on Jordan... it would be on both. I just can't see a team working with those two personalities on the court at the same time.2. Yes, as a NBA general manager you are going to trade a future NBA star coming out of college for a guy who would be retiring in a few years anyway? Yeah, like that will happen, especially when you had a sure thing like Iverson coming out that year (that is what everybody regarded him as).Look at it like this: If the Lakers offered Kobe Bryant (who is younger than both Jordan and Barkley were back in 1995-96) to which ever team lands the #1 pick. Will that team accept that deal? As great as Kobe is, I doubt they would pass up Greg Oden. Same thing in 1996.You just seem to think that making a trade or a move is so easy, but it isn't. "We could have traded this guy for the #1 pick." You probably think we could trade Bobby Jones for the #1 pick this year, right?</div>Why would they have never work? What is your reason? AI respects Jordan, and would take 15 shots a game only or w/e.You still can have a guy turn into a bust, and it is not all out of the question that a team might have done this.I actually think some would do that deal. Player can turn into a bust even though don't think Oden will be.haha no your gay I don't think we can trade Bobby Jones for a #1 pick this year. Now that was stupid Oden/Durant for Jones? Yeah like anyone is that stupid. What kinda fool are you?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Apr 21 2007, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude, this is why your a just a Iverson fan and not a Sixer fan. If Sixers trade for Jordan, you still want them to somehow maneuver a dreamland trade for the 1st pick in the 1996 draft to 'oh what a coincidink' draft your boy Iverson. And not only that but expect a team to even think of trading the 1st overall pick in one of the stellar drafts of all-time. Go in the corner NOW!It hasn't, for it to work they'll have to win a championship. *Checks his crystal ball*. I see nothing. Yes, but common sense would say the chances of Iverson becoming a Sixer still after this possible trade are slim. It's a good 12 years, domino effect people. Cards fall a different way and take a different path for the Sixers. That path is more than likely not taking the same way that led to Sixers getting the 1st overall pick in 96'. It's common sense.</div>I am a Sixers fan so don't f****** tell me what I am and am not you fool. And nah you go in a corner who the f*** you think you are.I am saying it be very possible to trade one of there stars for that first pick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Apr 21 2007, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Meaning Serge would not have started following basketball... and wouldn't be here right now.sh*t...</div> That was gold. :HAHAHA:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I am a Sixers fan so don't f****** tell me what I am and am not you fool. And nah you go in a corner who the f*** you think you are.I am saying it be very possible to trade one of there stars for that first pick.</div>Look at this rant.
[quote name='Serge' post='340046' date='Apr 21 2007, 06:26 PM']Why would they have never work? What is your reason? AI respects Jordan, and would take 15 shots a game only or w/e.[/quote]It just wouldn't work. Jordan demands perfection and expected 200% from his teammates in practice. Iverson, as great as he is and was, had turbulent first few seasons with his coaches, management, off the court, etc. And that is just a little bit of the problem with whether or not those two would have been compatible personality-wise.On the court, there is a whole other issue.Then again, you're assuming that if Iverson was paired with Jordan coming into the league, Iverson would still have been the scoring-machine he was... which wouldn't have been the case. Iverson was a sure-thing that year. Obviously looking back in time some franchises would have taken Kobe over Iverson, but in 1996 Iverson was the consensus #1 pick. If we could have been a bust, why would the 76ers want to trade a superstar for the #1 pick when it could have been a bust? You're thinking in hypotheticals here, but aren't even taking everything into consideration. The whole argument is a moot point because Jordan wasn't a Sixer. As great as Kobe is, I don't think any GM would accept that deal. In today's NBA you need a big man to contend for a championship, and Oden is a once in a lifetime player. After reading your posts on BBW, I think I should be asking you that question.EDIT: Anybody agree with me that Serge is the new mavsfan100/PFF of BBW?
That would be pretty cool if we had Jordan. Who knows what would have happened to our franchise. Championships galore? Maybe.If we did have Jordan there is no possible way for us to actually obtain Iverson in that 1996 Draft. Iverson was considered to be a sure impact player right out of college with superstar potential. Theres no way in hell I would have let the number one pick go for a Star Veteran retiring in a couple years. Don't think Jordan and AI would work even if it was possible. The two highest scoring guards in NBA history, I doubt they would click. AI had personality problems, like BigMo said, it was just WW3 waiting to happen.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Apr 21 2007, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It just wouldn't work. Jordan demands perfection and expected 200% from his teammates in practice. Iverson, as great as he is and was, had turbulent first few seasons with his coaches, management, off the court, etc. And that is just a little bit of the problem with whether or not those two would have been compatible personality-wise.On the court, there is a whole other issue.Then again, you're assuming that if Iverson was paired with Jordan coming into the league, Iverson would still have been the scoring-machine he was... which wouldn't have been the case.Iverson was a sure-thing that year. Obviously looking back in time some franchises would have taken Kobe over Iverson, but in 1996 Iverson was the consensus #1 pick. If we could have been a bust, why would the 76ers want to trade a superstar for the #1 pick when it could have been a bust? You're thinking in hypotheticals here, but aren't even taking everything into consideration. The whole argument is a moot point because Jordan wasn't a Sixer.As great as Kobe is, I don't think any GM would accept that deal. In today's NBA you need a big man to contend for a championship, and Oden is a once in a lifetime player.After reading your posts on BBW, I think I should be asking you that question.EDIT: Anybody agree with me that Serge is the new mavsfan100/PFF of BBW?</div>He was young dude are you kidding me every young guy will have a problem, and the practice thing was blown out of what it was really in college he did not miss 1 practice for any reason at all NONE.I am saying though some gm's would have done the trade cause you get a sure thing super star and AI could have been a bust so if Sixers were sure and other gm was not it could have worked. And Kobe would not have been taking over Iverson if they new how he would be now probably. SI thing or w/e last summer or for get when did article re draft of 96 still had AI going 1st just like he went Kobe 2nd instead 13th.And what question should you be asking me I am confused?I am making a fair point your blind to see that a gm could have traded for a super star for #1 pick depends how exactly that gm viewed Iverson.
