Cops are people and very few of us are good all the time or bad all the time. The same cops who plant evidence also arrest rapists and help others. The problem is, it’s never ok for a police person to be bad. Going through 99% of the day being good and then doing something shady and illegal erases the rest of that 99%. So yes, I’m guessing a large percentage of police cross the morality line from time to time. So only 1% May be rotten to the core, but a huge swath of the rest of the police are bad in moments. That makes them defacto bad.
Probably because no one wants to get shot at for $13-$22 an hour except for people who legit want to serve community, or cant find anything better. If y'all want higher standards why dont you vote to pay police $40 an hour and require more regular training. More qualified people would do the job for that kind of pay. As things stand, i'd rather get a networking degree and make $90k a year to catch employees watching porn and surfing facebook in an office building.
Of course I want to believe they're good people. I choose to believe anyone is a good dude without evidence to the contrary.
I believe everyone is a self absorbent wiener, but i treat everyone with respect until they prove my beliefs right.
Maybe try elaborating on your posts as opposed to just saying "99 percent of cops are good, yeah right!!" followed by "looks like 100 percent of these officers are bad!!" okay so what are you trying to say here? okay so how many are bad? you have it all figured out right?
I think we should pass a law that permits police to plant evidence and accept bribes from Asians. Sure, it will suck for the Asians but the cops salary will skyrocket and perhaps they will get all their unethical behavior out of their system.
Nice. See you were wrong. per your stats, 100% are good. Well for starters what makes a good person is someone who feels guilt. No one is perfect and whether there is intent or not, if you feel guilty about doing someone else wrong, there is good in you. Take that a step further. The person who smiles and remains calm and kind in the face of adversity, I would deem kind. There is only one answer to all of this and its been the same answer since the beginning of time. Treat everyone you encounter the same way you would like o be treated yourself. Period. End of Story. That would weed out the inherently evil ones and allow the kind ones to live in more peaceful times. Until we follow this common sense logic at all times en mass... there will always be layers and confusion and finger pointing and questions as to motive and premeditated evil. The problem is this country was founded on selfish capitalism and the majority of our citizens believe its their right to be selfish and cut in line and step on the guy next to them to get ahead. So the second answer is remove capitalism and form robots. Then we are all equal and treated the same.... See how impossibly difficult it is to create a utopia? IT will never add up for all.
Obviously there are corrupt cops now and throughout history. I just think today more than ever they get more shit than they actually should get probably because the media likes to paint cops as people who just like to kill blacks when that's far from the truth. I have had my run in with bad cops and good cops. Also cops tend to get shit from your average angry social justice warrior at some meaningless protest getting screamed at and called fascists for doing their job by just standing there. Fact is a lot of cops are humans like everybody else and their job is insanely difficult. Whether you hate them or not, who is it you are gonna call when shit goes down? usually cops. I just can't stand the hypocrisy. A lot of these guys gotta live their life constantly dealing with shitty people and liars. See their side for once
I like your guilty arguement. I think honesty should be something employers value. You know whats funny though? Every job application im truthful on, im immediately screened as a no go, except for guess what, law enforcement applications. That tells me law enforecement values truth over past mistakes. All other jobs seem to want you to be perfect, or lie and claim to be perfect. I submitted an application last week to a technical job. They had a questionnaire to determine if they would even read your application. One question was have you ever lied on your time card? I was honest, i lied once when i was young and dumb and got caught and got fired. I was relieved when i was fired, because i spent 2 weeks feeling guilty. I never turned myself in because my coworker did the same thing, and i knew id get her in trouble too. i learned from my mistake, and never repeated it. But this was a yes or no question. So i answered yes without an explination. I was immediately denied. However when police departments do a background check that's exactly what they want, honesty. Not lying is an easy way to land a decent job as law enforcement.
I agree and appriciate people who think like this. People seem to expect police to deal with all the high stress and remain perfect. Its probably why so many have drinking and family problems. Then because of the pressure of the media their supervisors are quick to punish them for anything, addidng to the stress even more, because now they afraid to lose their jobs over minor mistakes, forget being corrupt, if a cop gets in a fender bender the other driver will want his head and his job, and many supervisors would can them just to avoid the media attention. I certainly dont excuse major moral violations. But i can certainly see why the temptation exists.
You're absolutely correct. They literally deal with the worst of us in the worst situations, every day. Here's something NO ONE ever talks about: You mean to tell me after this the majority of them don't have PTSD? I think they do.
I've also had cops completely lie about situations more than once. I've only had to interact with police a handful of times, and there has been undeniable lying from them on 3 seperate occasions. When it really comes down it, they are there to make money, and if protecting and serving honestly gets in the way of making more money, they forget about their standards very quickly.
There is no easy answer. I had a cop show amazing restraint when I was a kid that resulted in me not getting shot. That’s tough. I’ve also seen a cop kick a girl in the head from atop his horse at s protest I assume because he didn’t like her stance. Th problem is that police have tremendous power so they must be infinitely more restrained and more ethical than the electrician, bus driver or accountant.
With great power comes great responsibility. Maybe we should take it a few steps higher. Look at the government made up of child molesters, liars, and crooks. Thats where their orders start. Maybe the good moral cops are being run off or singled out by higher ups?
Given that cops tend to have military backgrounds as well, I would say so. They gotta see crazy shit and drama everyday while worrying about the altercation they show up to hoping to not get shot. It's no wonder they have such a trigger finger when people don't comply. They have families to go home to. I am not saying it's okay but god damn that job seems tough
Stop this. We're talking about cops. There is a stringent process that we could put them through to become cops and we don't. In Oregon it only 16 weeks and you get your badge and your gun. That's bullshit.
