OT 99% Of Police Officers Are Good...? Yeah...

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  1. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Nope. College should be tuition free. AND Community college is damn near free for the first 2 years.

    Don't make excuses. Figure shit out.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You truly have some idiotic takes...
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Quantify that number please. Aggressive officers are going to claim they were assaulted...

    Ever see a cop on top of a guy while saying "stop resisting"?

    Resisting arrest when you don't have a reason to arrest or detain? This shit happens all the time.
     
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    Yes, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll clean up a few posts in this thread later.
     
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    You should thank everyone for helping you maintain some sort of employment
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    No it's not at all.

    How many referees are in Portland? That's right, you don't know.

    Well, I know ALL of them. Personally. The last 15 years, I've refereed 400+ games per year. I'm well past hour number 8000 of my 10,000 hours of mastering my craft and because of that, I've refereed with most of them.

    Yup. And I have every one of them in my phone. I can literally call and talk to any Portland/Metro/Salem referee. So It's not about the idiotic post you made of "having a black friend".

    No, I've actually WORKED with these people. Remember this next time you decided to post stupid things.
     
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    I get it now. Collusion.
     
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    My only point with that stat is that it’s a dangerous job. What percentage of those assaults are bogus or a result of a cop initiating the action? Obviously, there’s no data available on that, or at least none that wouldn’t be suspect.

    I’m not here to dispute your assertion that there are too many bad cops. I don’t know what the number is, but anything over zero is troubling and needs to be addressed.

    You don’t trust cops, and you can point to all kinds of examples to support your case. I’m not going to dispute a bit of that. But the equally obvious truth is that we need cops to do the job of enforcing laws and protecting the law-abiding public. The question is how can we get our police forces to clean up their acts? Demonstrations have called attention to the problem, but too much of that just causes the cops to close ranks and stonewall legitimate concerns. We need to push for appropriate leadership in the police departments and work with those folks to adopt strong policies to reduce abuse and to ferret out the bad cops who need to be fired.
     
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    Great post.
     
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    With all the college educated people in todays society doing bad things.
    I'm not sure a 4 year degree + 100k salary is really going to be an incentive for a police officer to not be a bad person.
    In fact I think the more money you throw at a police officer. The more likely people will think they can get away with being bad people.
     
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    Standing and clapping!!
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    FTFY
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    This is just flat out wrong IMO.

    People that are paid better perform better. There's a huge difference between a Portland Parks & Rec Referee, and a PBOA ref. One is being paid $15 per game the other is being paid $67.25 per.

    The ones that are paid a higher wage have MUCH more training, are CONSTANTLY monitored, and are simply better officials because of that. You pay $15 for a ref, you'll get a $15 ref.

    Again, would you want to lose your $100K a year job for making a stupid decision when you are wearing a body cam?
     
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    Because Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, Politicians, and so many more professions would never jeopardize their salary by being bad people right?
    Education, and $ don't change people.
     
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    Also this is a dumb question. As I don't need to be paid x to not be a bad person.
    Paying a bad person x to not be a bad person won't change them. They'll use that money in bad ways. See Clinton. See the famous movie producer. See so many others not famous.
    Maybe YOU wouldn't jeopardize 100k a year. But you're also not a bad person right?
    @SlyPokerDog is a little hard headed, but we all can be at times.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    You can think the question is dumb all you want and you are only looking through your perspective. I however, think it's a very relevant one.
     
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    Why do you think it's relevant?
    Why do you think money, education, being monitored would change bad people?
    When we've had so many bad people in professions that are monitored, have a 6, 7, 8 or 9 figure salary, with multiple degrees.
    Only to show they bribe, cheat, steal, murder, etc. Their way out of trouble.

    All I'm saying is expecting those three things to be a deterrent for bad people.
    When it hasn't been a deterrent for bad people in other professions is just making the same mistake over and over again.

    I can do what you do too see.
    You can think people perform better with a better salary, education, and monitoring. But you're only looking through your perspective.
    You know the perspective of a good person.
     
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    I've never asserted or even insinuated this. What I said was:


    This means that if you really want to be a cop, you don't just graduate from high school, 16 weeks, then you're badged and gunned up.

    YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A COP!!
     
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    Good god.. I'm not going to keep repeating myself.
    Bad people won't change no matter what the requirement to be a police officer is. Or how much salary.

    You brought up your perspective on officials. These things motivate you.
    Why would these things motivate bad people to not shoot a black kid in cold blood?
    We have professionals with education, with money, and know they're being watched. Yet they don't care and still rape children.
    Why do you think what motivates you, would motivate them?
     
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    I don't know what needs to change for the police force, or other corrupt positions of power to be fixed.
    I certainly won't believe it's more money, more education and more monitoring as it's not a deterrent now.
     

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