Politics Abortions included in Tennessee ban on non-emergency surgeries amid COVID-19 outbreak

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  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    It's kind of an indictment that you've forgotten that Trump has already been in office for three years and you think he'll be someone new that you can "gamble" on.

    If he can't accomplish anything in three years, to the point that you're wondering what a Trump presidency would be like, what makes you think another term will do the trick?
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Because he claims he's against abortion and that's all that matters.
     
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    Ha. This is good. “Hm, I’m willing to give Trump a shot”
    -ABM in 2020, after Trumps 2016 election
     
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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We need MORE abortions not less. See: Spring Break, Florida, 2020.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    See: Florida, circa every year it has existed or will exist.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I've received health care in South Korea. Like their public transportation it's so heavily subsidized that it's cheap all the way from the doctor's charge to the price of the medication. I was seen at a large hospital in Seoul and the only charge was for the doctor's visit. This was about 40 years ago but I think my total bill for the doctor, shots and pills was about $13. Bus fare around town was about 3 cents. A taxi ride when less than a mile was about 80 cents. I'm sure it's more now but still cheap by our standards.
    Now, my sister-in-law, who still lives in South Korea, has a ton of medical bills and pays a song. Haven't checked the recent price of bus fare but that's how she travels and she is not that wealthy, okay, a little bit wealthy but not overly wealthy.
    S. Korea takes care of their disadvantaged, that's for sure.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Here's a news flash for you, before Obama Care premiums were headed North much faster than they are now while coverage was worse. Do you really want to go back to that including no coverage for people with existing conditions? Remember now, the preexisting conditions bullcrap was ended with the advent of Obama Care. Republicans have actually worked to reverse the preexisting conditions clause.
     
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    What if what if what iff.
    Condoms are everywhere.

    make better choices.

    Im pro choice. But i still think most abortions are a copout for not being responsible for ones decisions.
     
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    A woman who needed emergency hysterectomy was denied coverage due to pre existing condition, menstruation.
    A man had a heart attack. He and his wife had what they thought was ACA compliant insurance but was a junk plan. They were billed $250,000 because he had a heart condition and plan excluded pre existing conditions.
    The famous case of man recently returned from China with flu symptoms. He was able to get a Corona virus test but was billed $3000. He just had ordinary flu. Insurance company demanded three years of his medical records to search for possible pre existing condition so they could deny coverage.
    These are among the affidavits filed before the Supreme Court in the ACA case. Expect more people denied care if anti life ABM gets his way.
    The cruelty is the point.
     
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    Ever actually looked into this or just assuming?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Because disadvantaged people tend to make disadvantaged decisions? Ever thought about that? They may not have all the advantages in their thinking that you have.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Who says he hasn't accomplished anything?

    Have you ever seen a president hounded, investigated, prosecuted, and otherwise antagonized - on so many levels - more than President Trump? I know I haven't I'd love to see a term where he can just get on getting on with the business of our country without all the incessant distractions.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Actually, I'd love to see a hybrid of sorts: competition brought back into the marketplace (no single payer); no preexisting conditions; more employer participation in premium costs; provisions for the needy and certain low-income situations; total transparent and accurate quotes up front; etc. I'd like to see insurance companies collectively paying for medical testing. I'd like the continued efforts to get big pharm under control...and fair.

    I'm sure there's more stuff I'd like to see. I just don't want some big blanket thrown over it all and say daddy (our government) has it covered, you can go back to sleep now.

    To me, there's a certain irresponsibility in that approach that could also be wrought with corruption and/or huge wastes. When the government carries the stick, there's no real accountability. Is there? I say let the people who actually know what they're doing manage it, along with accountability checkpoints in place....however that might look. Perhaps, that's a bit pollyannish, not certain.

    Anyway, much can be debated if Trump will be able to get done what he has been promising. I get that. Nonetheless, I feel as if he is on the right track in terms of his "wants". We shall see.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/subjects/health-care/
     
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    Gee I wonder why duh
     
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    FIFY
     
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    Yeah everyone just leave him alone, he doesn’t bring on any of this drama himself it’s the media’s fault. He doesn’t like controversy. He just wants to do a great job.
     
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    Jesus Christ on the cross didn't suffer as Trump has suffered from impeachment. Jews in Nazi Germany weren't as persecuted as Trump is by people saying mean things.
     
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    Seriously? The fat bastard did his own hounding, antagonizing, etc. of the previous administration with all of his birther bullshit.
    If he cant get anything done with the house and senate on his side because of people mocking him, maybe hes just unfit to lead?
     
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    Wrong it’s CNNs fault
     
  20. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Uh, helloooooo..........Bill Clinton anyone??? The Republicans spent 8 entire years hounding him on Whitewater, Vince Foster, a hummer from Monica, yada, yada, yada. They never let up. Trump’s getting off incredibly easy considering just how open his corruption is........and your memory sucks a hoagie.
     
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