i think there is a difference between being satidfied with the momes made thsi far vs being content on the continued improvement. Meaning i would not be satisfied if ww just said, all is well now, we've done enough. But i can be satisfied with saying we are making progress. We need to keep making progress until every detail has been addressed and possibly overhauled. To be content with the progress happening is much different than being satisfied with what has happened.
Click the link in my post. Then when you get there click the link in the story that says: cops who were military veterans NVM just click this ^^
Wrong. GED has been the only requirement. We have hairstylists with more schooling... It's shameful...
This looks like a lot of anecdotal evidence. I skimmed it and saw no data. Can you post the quote with supporting data which shows 100% of combat vets make bad cops please? Or even 50%?
with a 4 year degree you'd be qualified to teach at the academy probably ...the degree would also fast track you to junior grade officer if you wanted a military career and you could also opt to teach at an academy there
This is how confused some y'all are... We're trying to end the race war... It's been going on for hundreds of years...
These assholes and have pushed and succeeded to exempt police from the public employee vaccine mandate. They prove everyday that their job has never been public safety. Their job is and always has been to maintain the current social order at the expense of the under class for the benefit of the upper class.
There has never been an open civil war caused by shutting down a city's police department. Nothing that anybody is advocating for is more extreme than shutting down a city's police department. Again I ask, how is this civil war going to start? Who is going to be attacked?
All I know is a few of my friends enrolled in Western Oregon to get their degree to become police officers. Early 90s. No idea of a link, shit I didn’t have a computer until 2000.
I thought we were discussing more than just the police? I thought we have morphed into a haves vs have nots? shutting down the police is just one small step in the minds of some. Gotta see the big picture of the agenda amd the potential end gMe if the opposition pushes back. Not sure what else you are looking for. For me to detail out who fires the first shot when where and why? Thats impossible. All im saying is the speed in which some are demanding change would require tearing most of our government down and large corps control the government. They are not going to just let it happen. Too much money involved. Sooo many facets make it far too complicated put a finger on one thing and say its the catalyst. However i believe the demand for instant change is not going to work.
Yeah, not advocating ripping government down. Just getting police to be professional and actually work for the betterment of society rather than being a part of the problem.
gotcha. I just dont think it stops there( i dont think you do either). there are alot of intertwined messages being tossed around because so many things need fixing and some things are tied to other things which then are connected to other things, etc it, to me, is a very complicated snd delicate situation and all I'm saying is i dont think we can just dive into the deep end head first, or it all may unravel into chaos before we know it. Police defunding is but a small portion of the larger problem. I stil believe the core of the problem lies much deeper than the face of our police force and in defunding the police we are just putting a facelift on a larger evil. But simultaneously alerting and this allowing that evil to counter. With that said, i can see where some feel they don't have a voice within a democratic system until they no longer feel oppressed, considering thier number one oppressor, they feel, is the police. To me, the push to defund the police is trying to put a bandaid on a severed limb. The movement should be within the political system snd get elected those who want and will instill a change. Forced change through violence has never worked snd i don't see it working in the long run now. To me, the movement would be much more stable and long lasting, if it were done within the system. The founding principles of this country were not wrong, its just the founding fathers felt those principles were only for certain people. But when we take that away that disgusting prejudice and provide those principles to all, we are still the greatest country ever, for that reason. No other country in history has ever put down any rights of the people until we did. Did they do it perfectly? No. But they were on the right track.
But nobody is advocating for a violent overthrow of the police. Just to get them to actually serve and protect or if they don't do that, they lose their job. The police and judicial system are the tool that holds the downtrodden down.
im sorry but the last 18 months show Differently. One need look no further than the attempted arsen of police headquarters in portland to see that some people absolutely are fine with a violent overthrow. Lets be real here when we say no one. Thats bs. There are some people.