if thats who i sound like then i dont thino you have read my posts. No where did i say thats what i want. No where did i provide any support for the right wing nutjobs. However i dont discredit their ability to attempt undermine the movement it it moves too quickly. If anything the raid on the capital supports my opinion. the main difference is you think we can fund everything. I don't think we can. No sustainably. Its been proven that providing universal everything has failed in the long run. people are already lazier now than they were two years ago. Helo wanted signs wverywhere but people sitting ar home collecting money. This is not good for the economic infrastructure and will eventually send it spiraling. Look at inflation already??? Give money out and prices increase. No one saved a dime by getting handouts, as were all paying more for everything. i mean, to me the signs are clear. But im trying to look way down the path. NOt just right before me. The conservatives will not allow money to dwindle away and will fight back.
We can address these issues after you back up the Civil War fearmongoring. Give us a reasonable scenerio in which half of the country supports fighting the other half because police are being held accountable and our education and healthcare are paid for via taxes in 2031. Do you think that would be the result? What if Biden pushed through legislation next year that forced all of it to happen over a decade. If so, you're making the claim. I'm taking your claim seriously. Please, walk me through it.
i already did. Your missing it somehow. 2031 is just around the corner. How Bout 2071? conservatives beleives this to not be sustainable and will topple our economy. It wont be stood for aNd eventually side will be drawn. Do you think wars start out of the blue? They ramp up over a series of events. To me the series of events are under way. war may be a decade away yet but the path is pretty clear.
You didn't. 2071 is not acceptable. You want to allow innocent people to be abused by government goons in fear of idiots with Hawaiian shirts attacking (insert somebody, we're still not sure who they will be fighting against). Yep. I'm not following this logic and will cease considering it as a legitimste possible conclusion. Thanks for clarification.
I'm not sure why you're on this pay them kick. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the fact that they are doing exactly what they've been trained to do for centuries.
Dvisive shit??? You're blaming me for being divisive?? Jesus... We've NEVER been a united country. EVER. Sit with that. And don't talk about me being divisive, I'm responding to the war white people have waged against us since before this country's inception.
You're STEADY talking about "ANTIFA" but won't get the people who live in your neck of the woods. They get police escorts to come spray us with bear mace...
And I'm talking about stopping that and getting a force to ACTUALLY serve and protect all people. You know, something that can actually be accomplished. We can't change how they were trained in the past. We can change how they are trained in the future. If every conversation on police devolves into pissing match about the past then we'll never move past it. Yes, we acknowledge that there are racist police and the system they protect negatively impacts minorities. I'm for changing that to improve the future for all poor and minorities who would be targets and in doing so, improve our country as a whole.
Good because what i bolded i never even came close to saying or wanting. So you are correct. Your conclusion is illogical.
i don't agree with either but one was in response to the other. Antifa showed up first with violent agendas. So the right wingers came out of the woods in. response. Again i dont agree with wither groups’ tactics
Well, you actually responded to me. Don't tell me I can't have a grievence against policing in America because of the color of my skin. That's divisive and it's incredibly counterproductive to getting the change you claim to want. If you want to try to silence my advocating for improving things you can go fuck yourself. On the other hand, if you actually want to have a discussion about how to make improvements I'm game.
to clarify i didnt say have health care by 2071. Im saying how are you going to pay for it that long when we Re seeing inflation skyrocket already? maybe that miss understanding led to your response.
Excellent. I'm left to guess about what you're saying since you refuse to engage. So once yiu want to address that concern I'm happy to have that conversation. Until then I'll just ignore your concern about some illogical civil war which will never happen.
We each already pay on average more tax money for Healthcare than Canada. We save money on that system. Just one example. If you had no medical bills, co-pays, or healthcare premiums you would have more money to help offset inflation. Not less.
Whos paying all those fees? Through taxation? So someone who has littlecto no health issues has to pY an inflated tax to offset the regular health needs of some who care not to take care of themselves? yeah ive said this before, so i have provided reasons. You may not agree but there are plenty of people out there who will push back on universal this and that. The reLity to me is there will never be a universal anything because not everyone requires the same things and its simply not right to force one person to pay into a system to help another person because they dont want to work or dont want to ear healthy, etc. this is a fundamental left vs right conflict. But now with the left basically trying to force universal everything, the right will push back. If the left pushes back again… war. yeah its not simple like that but i don't have the time to address every single detail as again its all complicated aNd takes a series of events. Look at texas. Look at Eastern oregon. People are dividing and drawing lines more and more. The current path will lead to war.
