Nobody thinks 100% of police are evil people. But they are all part of an evil system. Giving one the benefit of the doubt only reduces the pressure to change. And the change HAS to come from the system, not the citizens.
Part of the problem. Ex military should not be able to be police. They are trained to kill, they are violent, and mentally unstable. Pay them retirement. They are back from duty. Their career is done.
That's much less of a problem than our current situation of having a militarized police force which sees citizens as the enemy.
Media reports what it wants to report. Just because those are the stories reported doesnt make the numbers reality on the streets. Read the thread title again. I never said all cops should have the benefit of the doubt, but they shouldn't all be prejudged guilty when many have never before been in a controversial incident. How many bad cop police stories in the last 5 years. 1000? (Pulling that number out of my, but i bet its less) How many cops in the nation? 100,000?( another numbers out of my ass, but i bet its much more) I was addressing the thread title and how someone i respect can believe that every cop is bad(based on the thread title) so in essence, both of you have just agreed with me.
Phatguy was trying to tell you what the title was inferring. Every cop is bad because they are part of a bad system. Some are corrupt, most others who aren't turn a blind eye to those who are. All of them are part of a system that is inherently biased against black people.
My cousin and several other irish americans in my family are cops and firemen...sort of a tradition but you have to expect that a job that gives you power over people , handcuffs, tasers, clubs and guns with bulletproof vests and cages in the back of their cars will attract some sadistic fuckers to the profession....all cops are not bad but way too many are. My cousin is the nicest cop you'd ever meet...gentle giant. Played basketball with me on the high school team..he means no harm to anybody.That does not water down the right of black americans to mistrust or dislike the cops and what they've represented to them in a racially profiled, unfair country that has never stopped the "guilty if you're black until proven innocent" culture in many police districts.
Like I said, giving even ONE the benefit of the doubt is counterproductive to what needs to happen. Hence, ACAB.
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Yes, incentivizing universities to hand out more worthless degrees is the answer. I don’t know what’s funnier, the idea that a profession as mindless as law enforcement would require a degree, or the idea that having a degree is the benchmark for a meaningful career in the year 2021. You may want to ask a few bartenders and waitstaff how their liberal arts, psychology or business management degrees are paying off.
First of all, I hate the American education system we have in place, with a passion. It elevates those with an inherent financial advantage and forces everyone else into severe crippling debt. But, if every other job requires this, why shouldn't policing? Consider it a litmus test of whether or not someone is intelligent enough to wield THAT amount of power fairly and with empathy. It could be a separate program, like that of nursing. 2 to 3 years of training in aid, psychology, first aid, mental health, racial studies etc. What we don't need is meat heads and toxic chuds being fast tracked into positions of complete power. Now, if you want to change how the education system works, for all of us, I am 100% down to have that conversation. But, under the current paradigm, there should absolutely be schooling/ degree requirements for policing. If it takes a 4 year degree to be a fucking office worker, we should not be giving out free passes for these very delicate professions. And others have mentioned, ex military should be provided schooling for free to make sure they are ready for a civil job.
I know there are plenty of legitimate degrees and varying levels of how they are implemented. There are professions where you simply couldn’t perform the needed tasks without the necessary education, absolutely. But I disagree with the notion that every person who ran out and got a degree is performing some essential job that is a tier above everyone else. It’s just not the case. It’s really just a short sighted and elitist notion. I’ve worked with people in my field who were at the same level as me, but they had an air about them that suggested their degree ( that was irrelevant to our line of work) was enough to set them apart. It’s a rude awakening for many of these people when they get circles run around them by people who have out in the hours and built up a work ethic that they simply can’t contend with.
I definitely agree there needs to be much more extensive training for police. I don’t know if simply having a degree is the answer. But maybe if there was a degree designed specifically around policing, with those areas you mentioned being covered, I could definitely get on board with that. Maybe I misinterpreted your original post, it seemed like it was placing more emphasis on simply just having a degree of any kind. I personally think that mentality is damaging, and putting alot of young people in unnecessary debt.
