I went through a strikingly similar incident about 15 years ago (on a Friday the 13th....of course). It was "sweeps night" and the guy came roaring up behind me, almost tailgating me and waiting for a "mistake". Apparently I "touched" the center line on a curve on Stafford Rd. Only they hauled me from Wilsonville (a mile from my home) back to Oregon City (from where I had been all evening, ironically enough). I "failed" the field sobriety tests (which are utter bullshit. I have since had several LEOs and court officials agree that they are too subjective and all told me that if I was ever again in a similar situation, to refuse the field tests and demand a breathalyzer). The officer was an incompetent boob, who threw me in the back of his car unbelted and then drove way over the speed limit, weaving all over the road (like a drunk!!) while he played with his dash mounted computer. When we got to the jail, he gave me a breathalyzer while his 800 mHz radio was on (despite the sign on the machine stating the radios must be turned off while testing, otherwise it would skew the results. I saw the sign immediately but kept my mouth shut. If he was that blind and stupid.....He then had to wait another 15-20 minutes to retest. Even his fellow deputies treated him like a dumbshit. I had had one beer much (much) earlier in the evening so I blew like a 0.01. So he tossed me in the drunk tank with about 20 obviously inebriated guys (who were all much younger) until 3 am, when they put me back on the street for my wife to come pick me up. They just wanted to fuck with me because, hey, they could! I wasn't charged (of course) but it cost me $400 in towing and "car retrieval" fees. It was all to meet a quota and I too considered filing suit, but lawyers cost money so I let it drop. But my already low opinion of Clackamas County cops was more than justified. I would be extremely surprised if that particular cop lasted much longer at his job (I have a sister in law who was an Assistant Deputy DA in Clackamas County who rattled a few cages with her old cronies, so I got some satisfaction for my $400.....)
yeah. Not so much. Just read above and the go back to the beginning and see how it all played out. Not one person agreed with me. But now some are basically saying what i said when this thread was created. ill go back to my hole of isolation now…
Nah, I've said all along that the ACAB movement is probably counterproductive. But, there is a systematic problem that individual police can't expect to duck the backlash of. You're either part of of the problem or part of the solution.
Thanks for the support back when we were basically saying the same thing…. Also, you are but one of many here.
https://www.tumblr.com/thoughtportal/705344506940276736/ NYPD lets Proud Boys skip fares (the original tiktok video was taken down but it’s on tumblr)
The quotes you posted already showed me and others stating my current position. Seems pretty straight forward and consistent. I'm not sure what else I'd be looking for. No point in beating a horse that died 18 months ago...
The drunk tank is a loop hole. Years ago, before cell phone cameras, I got "detained" but basically beat up by a cop for drinking a beer on the sidewalk outside of the bar. They only stopped when a crowd formed and one guy who had a camcorder started yelling that I was being "Rodney Kinged", I asked every office I came in contact with for the original officers information and was told it would be on the arresting report. At the drunk tank I was locked away for 4 hours, I asked for my phone call and was told that I was inebriated and don't know what I want and I don't get a call for drunk tank detention (I blew a .08 and was not driving, so buzzed but not drunk by any means) when I was finally released I asked for the report and was told there is no report because I was not arrested for anything. I asked again how I could know who the original officer was and they told me that they have no idea and I was handed off to a paddy wagon so there was no way for them to figure it out. Total fucking bullshit and a culture of machoism and protecting each other. To this day I have never looked at cops in the same way and I am suspect of every interaction I have with them.
Lol. Nice cop out. Read up or don't, but don't comment on it if your not gonna actually check it out. Thats shallow as F. At any rate, some people treat one individual differently than others, even with the same stance. Double standards abound. its not beating a dead horse if its an ongoing thing… It’s still clear there is deflection to how some were treated early on in this thread vs others treated differently for having basically the same stance. Some people are just never ever wrong… in their own mind… Again read up or don't, but your rebuttal has no validity if you don't. Moving on now. I said my peace…
Interestingly, a couple of months after my experience there was an ad in the weekly Oregon City newspaper from a legal firm, asking anyone who had been a recent "guest" of the Clackamas County jail system to please give them a call. Kinda wish I'd followed up on that.....
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/monitoring-group-chicago-police-officers-training/ I’m sure this is only Chicago, and not a nationwide thing…….
