Look all I'm seeing here is a damn education being served by @dviss1 . I may not agree that ALL cops are bad, but God damn there needs to be serious fundamental and ideological changes with the system to stop the blatant racism that still haunts our country. And no money for body cams? The fuck is going on? Hold them all accountable for fucks sake. They told us police are to make people safe, but that for sure isn't happening any more and politicians need to start championing for us, not for corporations or special interests. This goes much further down than just police. This country is so fucked and the people who we voted to make changes are doing Jack shit because they are bought by special self-serving interests. I thank each and every one of you who served our country, and am forever grateful for you. But this country as it is right now fucking sucks and there is very little hope it's gonna get better unless a radical change happens. And it needs to happen now. I will never blindly be patriotic when there is all this fucking bullshit that infests this country.
There are obviously individual circumstances but originally post shooting trauma was also real for officers. I would think it natural that they develop a training to help officers deal with shooting someone. cops have been shot at in the past and so cops will need to have a layer of protection on the streets, both physically and emotionally, to feel safe.
The thing i disagree with is radical change is meeded. Radical change is war. But the same people saying this are saying its the other side that wants war. The only peaceful solution is to continue chipping away at the worst of it from within. But to tear it all down and try to rebuild it… well your talking full on war. Is that what people want? Full on war? Nothing this complicated changes over night or the side forced to Change will eventually come back to change things back. So all we have is a never ending pendulum of violence. if we want long, sustainable peace, then we all must work together to change things from within. This starts on the local level in schools and city council meetings and go from there up the ladder.
I've seen no data which would suggest being a combat vet excludes you from being a good cop. I would agree there should be additional scrutiny for ex military... But a legit psych eval and plenty of training should be more than enough.
It's not war if the citizens decide the people they are paying aren't doing their job. As they are obviously not. That's not war, it's just good policy.
You think police are going to come to work after they've been fired for corrupt or militarized behavior? Are they going to fight against the police who aren't corrupt? Like... How do you see this war happening? why wasn't there war in Minneapolis when their police were all fired? Seriously curious about the details of this war.
the forced expediency required to appease some will cause a staunch reaction from the opposition. If its true that racism is imbedded so deeply into our government and large corporations, do you not think they will push back if stripped of everything so quickly?
I don't think they will have a choice if the population wants it. By refusing to do their job they are trying to force the population into supporting them. Might work, but it's also their last gasp. There is nothing else they can do. Again, who are they going to attack in this war? Minorities? The poor? They've been attacking them for decades. I'm honestly asking what this war that you're warning of could look like? Who is their enemy? It's not just racism. It's classism. They target the weak who cannot defend themselves. The people who can't take time off of work to go to court, even if they could afford a decent lawyer. Racism is just a (terrible) piece of the overall classist war police have been pushing for years.
Exactly, The haves vs the have nots, which is usually what most wars entail. Typically the ones that have have control over the militia and most militia leads tend to be conservative and so they side with the like. but its not easy to define what you are asking because I don't think it will be black and white. segments will branch off and march towards thier extreme ideals If I had all the answers and details Id be able to stop it. But yeah mainly a war of classes, which will tear families and communities apart.
It has to be radical change because no one who has the power to do it wants to do it, so we have to be RADICAL about it. It's not so black and white with wording. Not so literal.
Nothing wrong with radical change in a positive direction, but it still has to happen gradually in my opinion. When I say radical, maybe that isn't the best word, maybe the best word is instant. It seems without 100% instant change, no one is appeased. Nothing like this will happen instantly. It takes generations to wipe out generations of racism. We have been taking steps in the right direction. You are exactly right about it not being black and white and that's kinda my point. There is no easy quick fix other than to tear it all down instantly(which isn't a quick fix), which, in my opinion, would bring full on war. The only peaceful solution is patience and persistence.
But cities have gotten rid of their police force in the past and no war broke out... I disagree about patience. You have to keep pushing. We should not be happy until the change is complete. As soon as we are satisfied the change will stop or even be rolled back.
Your opinion of me isn't any of my business and IDGAF what you think. Time is the most valuable commodity and giving your opinion of me is wasting your time. Figure that out.
