According to Berger... Blazer trades depend on Roy

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  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Not necessarily San Antonio looking for some depth. I think you're using the least valuable player in order to make your point. Przybilla would indeed be depth. But a team that felt it was a high level point guard or high level big man away from being a true title contender might indeed trade a young player or two (I don't know about "and a veteran") to get Miller or Camby. And that would be perfectly rational (if their evaluation of how close they were to winning a title was correct) as cashing in on a championship when there's a chance is worth a lot of future value.
     
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    The reason I said we'd get back a young player and a crappy contract is that usually young players don't make nearly as much as Marcus or Joel or Andre make.
    That difference is usually made up by a crappy contract (rather than 2 or 3 more young guys, which would of course be preferable). Note I didn't say veteran, although the contract would of course be attached to a veteran - but it would likely be a veteran who was of little to no use, at least to the team trading him.

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    :clap::clap::clap:

    What he said.
     
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    BTW, to those who say the team doesn't have enough info to make a decision on Roy - have you ever heard of paralysis by analysis?

    A person can always find an excuse to hunker down and do nothing.
     
  5. RoyToy

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    Since Mixum didn't provide a link this little nugget wasn't included:

    Hmmmmmm. Interesting.
     
  6. Ed O

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    You didn't provide a link, either. What did you leave out due to that?

    :)

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  7. RoyToy

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    I didn't intentionally leave anything out nor was I accusing Mixum of doing so.

    Thanks for playing! :clap:
     
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    Barfo -

    You're suggesting the Blazers can expect to get a "crappy contract" likely belonging to a veteran who wasn't very useful to his former team (and he'd be useful to the Blazers how exactly?)...

    I think that's realistic. Depressing, but realistic.

    Minstrel -

    You're suggesting that Miller or Camby (and no, I didn't intend to distort things by using Joel in my example, but in retrospect, I can see how you'd guess that) could net the Blazers multiple young players, potentially, without the need for adding Fernandez or Batum.

    I think that's not entirely impossible, but unlikely. Tthe Blazers would have to find that perfect trade partner that's close to a championship except for a singular need for a pass-first guard with a suspect outside shot (Miller) or a skinny (he's wiry!) defensive-oriented center (Camby)... and that team also would have sufficient young assets that a.) they were willing to part with, and b.) could be combined to create enough $ to balance out Miller's or Camby's contract (though the trade exception could obviously be used).

    I think things aren't as bad (as I'd call them) as barfo outlines, and not as easy as Minstrel suggests. I think in order to get the young assets that Minstrel suggests the Blazers could get - or to avoid the "crappy contract" and "of little use" veteran - that barfo expects, the Blazers would have to attach Fernandez, Batum, or one of the more highly paid players (i.e. Aldridge or Matthews).

    I suppose I'm expecting the Blazers are going to want shoot higher than barfo is suggesting, and won't be as lucky (or as creative, perhaps?) as Minstrel believes.
     

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