According to Canzano...

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  1. RR7

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    Not only that, but again, Bosh doesn't want to extend. There is a big difference. Why do people keep on referencing Bosh and Wade and Lebron as if the situations are at all similar.
     
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    Because one poster is adamant that the situations are similar, which they are not.
     
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    Hope Canzano gives us something good.. or else, I'm going to feel like bitching again.
     
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    Canzano says Roy asked for a PO for year 5.
     
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    http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2009/07/canzano_roy_asked_for_optout_i.html

    So what's the defense now against it, or does this change things at all?
     
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    Brings some clarity to the negotiations.
     
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    That's what I would want too. That way you got flexibility if your value is still at max status and the cap goes up you can re-up sooner for more money. If your value/durability goes down you can play year 5 out.
     
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    It does make Roy's public messages a bit more difficult to understand, though.
     
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    let him have the player option
     
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    Or, leak a 5 year offer with no player option. That puts Roy on the spot in terms of not wanting the longest possible commitment to Portland.
     
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    They should let him have the option, but I get why the Blazers would balk. Although they should just do it. Most stars only ask for 3 year deals. Brandon wants to be here for 4 at least
     
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    Not exactly, since they haven't offered him a 5 year deal without a PO. He might sign that and just wants to keep the middle ground at 5 years without a PO. Or am I misunderstanding you?
     
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    It depends on if the hang-up is the player option, although as far as we've heard, nothing ove r4 years has been offered by the team.
     
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    I guess what has bugged me is the term "Nickle and Diming". I never thought this was true and I still don't. The amount of money does not seem to be the problem so i doubt any animosity will come from it. They are not insulting him here.
     
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    They won't know though if he will exercise his PO and a team might try to pry him away during that option year and if the CBA is changed such that it makes it impossible to match, that may be a big hang up for the Blazers. Still, I agree with you.
     
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    Did it occur to you that the 5th year is what Roy really wants? Negotiating is fun!
     
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    But if we were only offering 4, adn he opted out of his PO from the 5th year, we would be in the exact same situation regardless. What this seems to show is that they DON'T want him to have that 5th year. I guess that ties into the injury risk thoughts or something, I dunno. But there is absolutely no reason on Portland's part to fear him opting out of a 5th season, while you are only offering him 4 seasons.
     
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    I don't get the "injury risk" thing so much.

    If he goes down hard, they'll get RL-level insurance money. Not to mention a probable injury exception (like Yao). Financially, it's not that big a deal.

    Cap-wise? Yeah, it could hurt the cap. For the last year they're haggling over. Where they'll be over the cap (and probably lux tax) anyway.

    So we're not giving Roy max yrs/max $ on the chance that he'll suffer a catastrophic injury that will limit his usefulness in the 5th year? When we'll get insurance $ and injured player exception relief anyway? Seriously?
     
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    Obviously, I don't know. Just saying the injury possibility was floated before. I can't think of a reason you wouldn't want him locked for 5.
     
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    Of course it occured to me. It's what I've posted. What are you talking about? The Blazers coulds put the cards on the table in public to see if it's about a PO or a commitment. The fact remains that Roy wants, at the very least, to make a longer commitment to the Blazers than the Blazers are willing to make to him.
     
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