Rumor According to Quincy Jones, Paul Allen plays like Hendrix

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    Lillard could use a little Hendrix on his next album.
     
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    Motherfucker...
     
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    So much for Malcolm Gladwell's theory about how the Beatles became experts in their field....
     
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    I saw Paul and his band around 10 years ago at a Blazers season ticket holder event. Paul is pretty good, but I've heard many guitar players that are a lot better.
     
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    Beatles were sort of the punk rebellion in pop music early on with barely in tune guitars doing bad Chuck Berry covers...before them it was Bobby Darin or twenty other pop singers named Bobby...they evolved as musicians along the way....for Quincy to say Paul was a bad bass player...he's never heard the bass line to Come Together I'm thinking....Paul didn't play triads starting with root notes and Ringo played backward drum fills...but they made it work . Back in the USSR didn't need a jazz drummer.
     
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    67-69 Concord Ca.
     
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    I love Q. He's a genius. But he also older than Methuselah. And the Beatles were anything but sit. And yeah, Michael probably was a thieving tightwad.
     
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    Prop....what do you think this is, Halloween or something?
     
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    Ok Sly - you can merge...

    You buried the lede in your thread title, though.
     
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    I used your title.
     
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    This is your favorite part:
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    That would make you Rastapokerdogoulos
     
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    Quincy is one of the original jazzers and R&B guys. He's of a similar mindset to Johnny Otis. The real music was people like Count Basie and The Duke to them. When the Brits came over they ruined it. You can't help but understand his line of thinking. The Beatles were nascent when they started but they had a lot of help from George Martin. Pretty soon he was turning them into mini-Phil Spectors. Paul was playing those inventive bass lines like Come Together. Ringo was doing that synchopated magic on Rain. George was playing backwards guitar on Norwegian Wood. And John, well, he was writing those great songs with Paul. It pissed off the old jazzers like Q. Can you blame them? To see a bunch of crackers stealing their thunder.

    But it's hilarious to me that people hate on Elvis or don't realize how groundbreaking he was. The Beatles and Stones get a pass, but "oh fuck Elvis." So, you're not going to admit that Elvis was THE ONLY ONE who could have done what he did. Had that appeal. Looked the way he did. Had an encyclopedia knowledge of gospel, country and blues. Could appeal across the board to white and black audiences. He was one of the best rhythm guitar players even up against HOF guitarists like Scotty Moore and James Burton. Scotty Moore said that "Elvis only needed one run through to get a song down." He nailed Suspicious Minds, in four takes. The guy was as musical AF, a great natural talent at just about everything. But we forgive the Beatles for co-opting Black Culture because they were far away Liverpool teens. We hate Elvis because he was born poor white trash, never aspired to be more than his background, and shook hands with Nixon. The worst thing about Elvis was that he didn't know better. He didn't know he was being ripped off blind from a terrible manager or that he was slowly killing himself with bad food and bad drugs. He was never even allowed to leave the country by Col. Tom Parker who was an illegal immigrant and had no visa. Little Richard put it best about Elvis, "He got what he wanted but he lost what he had." And his memory deserves better, because without music Elvis could have easily ended dead in prison, addicted to drugs, or maybe even prostitution. (yeah his childhood lot was that bad) People forget that Elvis is truly the American Dream incarnate. That's what he represents.
     
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    Black Leather Elvis in the 50s was the face of rock and roll.....later the Stones actually championed the Chuck Berry's and Muddy Waters ...gave them exposure but Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Johnny Cash, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry....50's had a baby and named it rock and roll!
     
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    A drummer I used to gig with once told me that Ringo was one of the last drummers to play songs instead of beats in pop music...he played a bit behind the beat...Charlie Watts was the same...had that lilt and tempo change style
     
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    Listen to him sing The Ghetto, he's talking about himself. He grew up in a one room shack. The hunger he's talking about is his own. Jesus, I can't people don't get that about Elvis.
     
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