AFC East positional rankings (not my opinion)

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  1. tko51

    tko51 nfl-*****s member

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    I hate the jets the least of all the teams in the East.

    I'm just pissed that our D collapsed to them the first time we played.

    Our D screwed up the second time we played them and gave them an easy TD pass, but we had already put the game away so it was too little too late.

    This year look for us to put them away by the 3rd quarter - the Jets are overrated.
     
  2. Send em back al

    Send em back al nfl-*****s member

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    Oh. This is the I love the Bills thread. I was looking for the I know football thread. My bad.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>
    And unfortunately the Einstein that made this still refuses to accept the fact that McGahee is the real deal.</div>

    Yes Mcgahee is a very good running back but how can you put him ahead of 2 1,600+ yard 10+ TD guys with a history of doing so year in and year out? Nevermind that Martin will go down as arguably a top 10 back EVER...</div>

    You seem to forget that McGahee's stats were the result of only 11 starts - add in another five games, and he would have LED THE LEAGUE in TDs by a running back.

    Not to mention he would have caught a few more TD passes - this guy's got a nose for the endzone - always has.

    BTW, McGahee had 13 TDs last year - that's pretty much like him being guaranteed a TD every game, and 2 TDs every third game.</div>

    I guess its easy to forget....cus he didn't show up when we played you.... :-) Coming off two straight 100 yard games he had a robust 37 yards....thats why I'm not worried...and its bold to say he would have led the league in TD's because you have NO idea what would have happened because 10 of his TD's came in 4 games against Stl (4) Cle (2) SF (2) and Pitt (2) when they weren't playing there starters...man did he run all over some serious Defenses...lol
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tko51)</div><div class='quotemain'>
    And unfortunately the Einstein that made this still refuses to accept the fact that McGahee is the real deal.</div>

    Yes Mcgahee is a very good running back but how can you put him ahead of 2 1,600+ yard 10+ TD guys with a history of doing so year in and year out? Nevermind that Martin will go down as arguably a top 10 back EVER...</div>

    I think he will be better than dillon ever was. He will be lucky to have a career as great as martins. But there is no way you can go into this season with him ranked anywhere but 3rd in division. I am sure after this year(barring injury) he will move up.</div>


    I agree Mcgahee has the ability to be better than Dillon...but its really about situation...I wish Dillon played on a real team his whole career...I mean he had 1,635 in a 15 game season though the game he missed was against the steelers which mean around 80 yards at but if he had been in a real offense his entire career he would have had better career numbers...either way I'm glad to have him..he broke many clutch runs for us..especially in the playoffs...
     
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    you guys remember what the play-offs are, you know a game that mcgahee hasn't played in yet... lol...
     
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    Eagles4Life He Hate Me

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    His numbers are still pretty good...

    1997 Cincinnati Bengals 16 6 233 1129 4.8 71 10 9 57
    1998 Cincinnati Bengals 15 15 262 1130 4.3 66 4 4 56
    1999 Cincinnati Bengals 15 15 263 1200 4.6 50 5 12 61
    2000 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 315 1435 4.6 80 7 12 66
    2001 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 340 1315 3.9 96 10 9 69
    2002 Cincinnati Bengals 16 16 314 1311 4.2 67 7 5 69
    2003 Cincinnati Bengals 13 11 138 541 3.9 39 2 3 24
    2004 New England Patriots 15 14 345 1635 4.7 44 12 8 81
    TOTAL 122 109 2210 9696 4.4 96 57 62 483


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    We WOULD have made the playoffs if we had started McGahee all year last year - He was running all over the Raiders when we played them, and he would have ran all over the Jags in week one if we only STARTED him all year long. - we could have very easily gone 11-5 which would have been good enough for the top wildcard spot.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah. That's it. I am a homer.</div>

    You are an eagles fan now? :cheesey: lets hope no eagles fans read this</div>

    Why yes I am. I just got those glasses with Green & Silver colored lenses you sold me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Send Em Back Al)</div><div class='quotemain'>Oh. This is the I love the Bills thread. I was looking for the I know football thread. My bad.</div>

    ROFLMAO

    It just dawned on me Buffalo fans may not be all that bright. After all, it seems only they enjoy [​IMG] seeing Bills.
     
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    Yeah, I only enjoy seeing the Bills.

    So what, it doesn't mean I don't know anything about football.

    I may not be all that well informed about other teams, but I do know that Buffalo will finish better then the Dolphins and Jets this year.

    We will be in the playoffs this year probably as a wildcard, maybe even as AFC East Champs (though I'd bet on the first rather then the latter).
     
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    DP He shoots, he scores!

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    Troy Vincent is a FS? I learn;d my lesson for posting more than once in a role...Use the edit button please.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'>and its bold to say he would have led the league in TD's because you have NO idea what would have happened because 10 of his TD's came in 4 games against Stl (4) Cle (2) SF (2) and Pitt (2) when they weren't playing there starters...man did he run all over some serious Defenses...lol</div>

    I like how that I pointed out most of his TD's were against 3 shit defenses and one that was sitting back with the conference in hand..and yet it was ignored? Though I did make a mistake his 4 TD game was against Seattle but there run defense was nothing to talk about... Sorry you boy still has something to prove IMO...because piling on against some shit teams does nothing for me.
     
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    J.P. Loserman is totally unproven. I don't think I would be talking too much trash when the most important position is that big of a question mark. Yeah, you can bring up the Dolphins' QBs, but everyone knows how I felt about Jay Feeble and I've haven't given a vote of confidence to Feeley or Frerotte either. Willis McGahee has done well over 11 games, so let's just go ahead and put him in the Hall of Fame at the end of the month. Geez. Again, I would wait until McGahee has played 16 games in a single year before I annointed him the greatest RB in the AFC East. If starting McGahee all year would have gotten the Bills to the playoffs, then why didn't they? The coaches must be real morons to have missed something as simple as that. Let's see what McGahee does now that everyone has seen him and will be gameplanning to stop him. This year may prove to be a bit more difficult than last year.
     
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    Some of that stuff makes sense. Losman is unproven. That is true. I think the Bills have a similar season to that of the Bengals last year. 2006 I think if the Bills keep that defense together wins AFC East but right now 9-7 at best.

    Maghee is better than now. I don't know why people get worried about injuries. 1 guy gets hurt one time and he is injury proned. Example people were saying. NO WAY Mike Vick stays healthy all year. Well he did and they went to the NFC Title game. Are you telling me in 1992 when the Packers took a couple of games to find Brett Favre. I guess Holmegrem must be an idiot. hmmmmmmm 3 NFC Title Births 2 SB Births and a SB Title. Sounds like a good coach to me. To bad Seattle is a mess for him though.
     
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    maybe because they didn't want to rush him back from his college injury so they gave him light duty - after all T. Henry had 2 1300+ yard rushing seasons and two probowl appearances anyways - they didn't expect McGahee to perform the way he did and didn't realize how much better he was then Henry.

    Also - maybe it was for Lockerroom stability - plus there were rumors about both demanding to be traded if they weren't the starter.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>2006 I think if the Bills keep that defense together wins AFC East but right now 9-7 at best.

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    There is no evidence that if the bills keep their defense together that they can overcome the Pats...or even the Jets who have some young and talented defensive players. Nevermind that Brady is still only 27 years old and getting better...and our defense gets younger and better almost every season..I just don't see the evidence that the bills are a year away from taking the AFC east...its nothing but a bold statement....Also with a QB that has shown he can throw the ball we smashed Mcgahee around..what happens when a rookie that has no idea what he is looking at sees our defense? Do you think Mcgahee will be able to run on us then? Bills will take a step back this year IMO and maybe a big one is Losman is as bad as I believe he will be...he is an arrogant fool IMO and that will be his downfall.
     
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    Just keep believing that - the pats will fall this year because they lost their two coordinators, the pats will be humbled this year.
     
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    All dynastys come to an end. Right now Pats fans are having trouble believing it. If Losman does pan out I think the Bills can contend with the Pats for the divison title down the road. Yes I believe Maghee will go for 100 yards on you guys at least in one of the games this year and maybe both. I think he is going to turn out to be one of the best runningbacks in the NFL.
     
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    <span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%">[/size]<span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%"></span><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"></span></span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>All dynastys come to an end. Right now Pats fans are having trouble believing it. If Losman does pan out I think the Bills can contend with the Pats for the divison title down the road. Yes I believe Maghee will go for 100 yards on you guys at least in one of the games this year and maybe both. I think he is going to turn out to be one of the best runningbacks in the NFL.</div>

    Im not doubting Maghee being talented or being a top back at some point but there are ALOT of very good backs in the league now and he'll just be one of them....as for the loss of our Co-ordinators..I'm not really worried about the defesive side of the ball with Belichick helping out on the game planning and Mangini was courted by both Saban and Crennel HEAVILY nevermind that he put together our patchwork secondary when we lost both law and poole for the season...I mean shit he turned troy brown into a useable corner..I think he can coach a little...but on the offensive side of the ball I'm interested to see what goes down with no new O-cordinator and belichick and a few other offensive assistants sahring the duties...but the one good thing is belichick has been aware of losing Weis for 2 years now since he should have lost him before last season so I would say he is prepared...also the offense has not been changed and they will still use the same system that brady knows very well...I think we'll be just fine without Crennel and Weis.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>2006 I think if the Bills keep that defense together wins AFC East but right now 9-7 at best.

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    There is no evidence that if the bills keep their defense together that they can overcome the Pats...or even the Jets who have some young and talented defensive players. Nevermind that Brady is still only 27 years old and getting better...and our defense gets younger and better almost every season..I just don't see the evidence that the bills are a year away from taking the AFC east...its nothing but a bold statement....Also with a QB that has shown he can throw the ball we smashed Mcgahee around..what happens when a rookie that has no idea what he is looking at sees our defense? Do you think Mcgahee will be able to run on us then? Bills will take a step back this year IMO and maybe a big one is Losman is as bad as I believe he will be...he is an arrogant fool IMO and that will be his downfall.</div>

    Like it or not, you guys will have some growing pains to go through with the loss of both coordinators.
     

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