Again (for the 6th year in a row)...

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    And against smaller quicker stretch 4's that those two can't stay with, I think Terry goes small. I think he is willing to throw Hark, ET and Jake out at the 4. They can get out on the perimeter and since there are so many long rebounds these days that hit the floor first, quickness and reaction helps just as much as length and power. Its not like these stretch 4's can dribble and will attack our smaller defenders. (for the most part)
     
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    We should have a poll on who we think will be the first to block a shot this season: Meyers, Biggie or Curry. My money is on Curry.
     
  4. GrandpaBlaze

    GrandpaBlaze Predictions Game Master

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    A good leader seeks to help his team improve. If Meyers problems are often mental, this could act as a confidence booster.
     
  5. Wizard Mentor

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    Sorry, guys, but this is fucking stupid internet shit. If you bitch about his lack of blocks, then you have to give him kudos for his 17.8 PER (higher than CJ), or you're just a troll.

    He sucks, no argument. But complaining about his lack of blocks is just dumb.
    /end thread
     
  6. TBpup

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    If fans were complaining about CJ's lack of blocks, that would be dumb. From a 7'1" center? That is a reasonable question. I'd be curious how many 7'ers went a whole season without a block playing in as many games as Meyers did?
     
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    Not to defend him because we know he lacks a feel for the game defensively and he never will be a good shot blocker, but half the time last year he was chasing forwards around the perimeter. Didn't he usually play with Ed or Nurk? I am just saying his minutes are a little misleading for your normal 7'1' center.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    2923 minutes vs. 254. Garbage time PER.
     
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    Wrong.

    Layman or Moe at the 4.
     
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    Ridiculous take.
     
  11. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Here's a list of 7-footers that played an entire season without recording a block:

    http://bkref.com/tiny/CkIxU

    Meyers is like the Wayne Gretzky or Babe Ruth of not blocking shots. He set a record that may never be broken, in terms of minutes played by a 7-footer without blocking a shot - 254 minutes. Second "best" is 81 minutes. To Meyers' credit, he did also have 11x the WS (1.1) as the second place finisher on that list (several with 0.1 WS) and scored over 4x as many points (112) as the second place finisher (26).

    BNM
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It's because he never got over that major growth spurt. He still tries to play like a high school white kid point guard.
     
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    No, you're wrong. I said almost. Few humans on the planet outside this forum think of Moe or Layman as a 4.
     
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    You seem devoid of explanations today. Small sample size....
     
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    That's not their primary position, but at 6'9 while the position is going smaller, they can definitely play it.
     
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    There's a difference between stats being inflated because of a 300min sample size and not getting a single block in 300min.
     
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    That really is an incredible feat Meyers accomplished...
     
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    Damn they have stats for this? That’s pretty detailed stat lol

    Impressive
     
  19. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The weird thing is, he hasn't always been like this. His second year at Illinois, he led the Big 10 conference in blocked shots. That's a pretty major conference and he had barely played as a freshman. When we drafted him, I thought we were getting an athletic shot blocker who was very raw offensively. Well, that's kind of what he was at the time.

    He also blocked 38 shots his rookie year. That's not exactly Mutombo-like, but it's the most he's blocked in a season in limited minutes as a 20-year old rookie. It's also a lot more than ZERO.

    It seems like he was told to stop going for the block and concentrate on verticality to cut down on the fouls. The thing is, he cut down on the blocks, but not the fouls (5.0 fouls per 36 as a rookie, 5.1 fouls per 36 each of the last two seasons).

    For whatever reason, any shot blocking instincts he may have once had are long gone.

    BNM
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Click on the link I provided. I used the basketball-reference player season finder. You can search on anything you want and then sort the results by clicking on the column headings. You can specify a specific season, or range of seasons, player height, age, etc. Plus, the searches can be complex with up top five variables.

    Here's the link to the search page:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi

    Knock yourself out!

    BNM
     
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