Politics Al Franken accused of sexual misconduct

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  1. MARIS61

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    Being non-famous won't make any difference when you're in prison for flirting, which is the direction it's going.
     
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    She's old now and that's not a good picture. She needed braces if anything

    I didn't mean that she was super hot so he shouldn't cheat. Just thought he was gay.
     
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    Uh oh...heard Seacrest did something. Don't know what, it was a teaser on the news this morning. Will Google now and see.
     
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    I've thought a lot about this Franken thing and followed the responses and I've got a couple of things to say.
    1. What he did was not okay. And who knows how much of it he did.
    2. I don't believe it was sexual harassment. I think he really disliked this woman (because she's what he would view as a right-wing bimbette - which, again, does not make any difference to whether or not he harassed her, nobody "deserves" abuse) and this was bullying on his part.
    3. (Again this is not an excuse, it is an observation) it was in the context of this USO tour where a huge amount of the vibe is crude sexual humor and objectifying of the sexy women (that was her schtick on this tour, which is why there are photos of her in a bikini kissing soldiers) I think that might have something to do with the photo, at least, because clearly this was intended to be funny and was a cooperative venture with the taker of the picture.
    4. Have you ever seen the movie version of M*A*S*H? Watch it again and see what they get up to re: humiliating humor directed at women. Franken is of an age where that was considered funny (and again, this is in the context of war). OF COURSE that doesn't make it okay, and maybe it's a sign that that generation needs to retire from the stage, but it's context, at least.

    Does that make a difference? It makes me more likely to believe the accounts of all those female interns and co-workers who have written a letter in support of him saying he was great and never disrespectful. It makes me prepared to believe that he is not a serial harasser (until other people come forward). Does it make his behavior okay? No, bullying is not okay, particularly if it involves intentional humiliation. And it's sexist bullying at that. But is he remotely comparable with Roy Moore? Not on this evidence. (Yes, I realized I was getting all preachy earlier in this thread about how we shouldn't "rank" sexual harassment, but we obviously do, and if it's just the one and it's not actually motivated by pervish desires then it's a different kind of bad behavior.)
     
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    Only a thousand words? Why don't you write the Sexhater Encyclopedia?
     
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    When the conservative pedophiles want to get the attention off themselves...stand up comics are the distraction...especially ones that wrote for SNL....nothing right about bad behavior but Franken's pranks shouldn't be in the same league as Moore's mall molesting attempts..and as many have said...he owned up immediately as did Louis CK......we're seeing an ugly divorce in the ongoing separation of partisan politics....according to Trump...locker room talk is ok with him and celebrity comes with a get out of jail free pass. If they decide to comb through every entertainer and politician that's fondled a groupie, starlet or employee....it'll take centuries to convict them all. The Chinese just used eunichs to protect their wives and daughters.....maybe that's the price a Harvey Weinstein should pay...lose the family jewels...
     
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    Only hardcore liberals and hypocrite Republicans would think Franken should resign. Interesting seeing the mental gymnastics it takes to get one to admit that there are different levels of offensive behavior.

    To hear them tell it a goofy grin at a woman is equivalent to Roy Moore trolling shopping malls for young girls.

    I guess the good in this current events nightmare is that LWNJs are grappling with logic. That can't hurt.

    The closet case family values RINOs on the other hand will keep on being themselves until they get caught.
     
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    Franken resigns.
     
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    Had to happen. Shame that a man with the right public values just couldn't not be a handsy creep.
     
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    The two democratic politicians accused of sexual harrasment have resigned, Moore and Trump should take a hint
     
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    Irony, yes, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't resign.
     
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