<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Apr 8 2006, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Vince got compared to Kobe? I've never heard that. Maybe in his early days.And Vince > Peirce.The record says everything.</div> :HAHAHA: Are you <Censored> serious?? Vince has Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, Nenad Cristic. Paul has Delonte West and Wally (who wasn't even on the team until a month ago). Also, the Celtics have been <Censored> by injuries this year. First Tony Allen, Marcus Banks, Delonte misses a few games, Wally misses some, Big Al has missed probably half this season, Perk missed over a month.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jkidd51524 @ Apr 8 2006, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Explain how Pierce is better then Carter if its so clear.</div>Okay, Vince Carter is a scorer. Paul Pierce is a franchise player. Paul Pierce is more durable, dependable, versatile, clutch than Vince. He hasn't missed a game in almost 3 seasons. He is arguably the most consistent player in the league (he and Allen Iverson are the only players to score atleast 15 in every game this year), he rebounds and defends better, he is unquestionably a better leader (need i bring up the VC Toronto incident again?). Paul Pierce has more of a desire to win, that's obious from Vince's Toronto days as well. I have no clue how you guys could possibly think Vince is better than Paul. Well, besides you all being Nets homers..
Im not a Net homer, and if you watch Carter now, not the Carter of Toronto, you would see Carter is better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 6 2006, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>people are saying he's better than Paul Pierce. enough said.</div>...because he is better than Paul Pierce..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 8 2006, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:HAHAHA: Are you <Censored> serious?? Vince has Jason Kidd, Richard Jefferson, Nenad Cristic. Paul has Delonte West and Wally (who wasn't even on the team until a month ago). Also, the Celtics have been <Censored> by injuries this year. First Tony Allen, Marcus Banks, Delonte misses a few games, Wally misses some, Big Al has missed probably half this season, Perk missed over a month.Okay, Vince Carter is a scorer. Paul Pierce is a franchise player. Paul Pierce is more durable, dependable, versatile, clutch than Vince. He hasn't missed a game in almost 3 seasons. He is arguably the most consistent player in the league (he and Allen Iverson are the only players to score atleast 15 in every game this year), he rebounds and defends better, he is unquestionably a better leader (need i bring up the VC Toronto incident again?). Paul Pierce has more of a desire to win, that's obious from Vince's Toronto days as well. I have no clue how you guys could possibly think Vince is better than Paul. Well, besides you all being Nets homers..</div>Philly record: 34-41Boston record: 32-42Ok, so AI and Pierce have managed to score, but where has it brought there team? What success has come out of from a team standpoint?Why are you talking about the VC of Toronto? This is a completely differnent player, cant even compare the two. I have said it before and I will say it again, the VC you see before you now as a Net is the best he has played in his entire career. Yes, that includes the years when he was dubbed "next Jordan"..His defense and determination to win are much improved and he has become a very unselfish team player. He also is focused on getting to the basket and taking high percentage shots moreso than outside jumpers (although he has been drilling threes at an impressive clip lately)..His desire to win? 14 game winning streak?? Youre talking about the VC of Toronto last year before he got traded. He is an entirely different player now and he has definatly been a team oriented player focused on winning games and doing whats best for the team..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 8 2006, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Will someone-- ANYONE-- give me anything valid that means Vince is better than Paul Pierce</div>Or you could just validate why you think Pierce is better than Carter since you seem to be the only one to think that..
i already have.. and seriously, what do you think gives VC the edge over Paul? Is there anything? If i here that he's a more willing passer, i'm gonna <Censored> myself, bc that is not something to make him a better player.
As much as I hate Pierce, I too believe he is a better player than Vince Carter. Nobody has given a valid reason as to why they believe Vince is a better player than Pierce. All I'm reading is "Vince is better" without their being anything to support it.Take a look at the stats for this year, and you'll see Pierce is having the better individual season.Then, for those of you who want to bring in team success, take a look at the rosters for each team, and then tell me that Vince could lead the C's to a better record than they currently have with Pierce.Vince is an amazing player, there is no doubt about it, but I'd much rather start my franchise around Pierce, and if I had the option of trading Vince for Pierce, I'd most certainly do it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Apr 8 2006, 06:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay, Vince Carter is a scorer. Paul Pierce is a franchise player. Paul Pierce is more durable, dependable, versatile, clutch than Vince. He hasn't missed a game in almost 3 seasons. He is arguably the most consistent player in the league (he and Allen Iverson are the only players to score atleast 15 in every game this year), he rebounds and defends better, he is unquestionably a better leader (need i bring up the VC Toronto incident again?). Paul Pierce has more of a desire to win, that's obious from Vince's Toronto days as well. I have no clue how you guys could possibly think Vince is better than Paul. Well, besides you all being Nets homers..</div>How do you argue with this? I agree, although I believe Carter is closer to Pierce than you bring up. Remember that: Ball in hands all the time = Stats, which Paul has had this year
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Asian @ Apr 8 2006, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pierce is only better then Carter this year. In Career wise, carter is better.</div>You're looking at the stats, and stats don't tell the whole story in regards to players talents and abilities. And even if you did take their career stats into consideration, you'd see that Carter only has a slight edge in that aspect.
Pierce is definately more durable, he has changed his attitude a lot and I have never heard the words "i'm not trying that hard" come out of his mouth like Vince did in Toronto. You must realize Vince is playing with a great young center in Nenad Kristic, arguably the best point guard in the NBA with Jason Kidd, and another great scorer in Richard Jefferson. Pierce has been carrying the Celtics on his shoulders and honestly I'm shocked the C's even put up the record they did this year. I know it's not good but still I thought this team was going to win like 20 games this year. Boston has so many young players, went through a HUGE roster change, AL jefferson has been injured a lot this season along with Kendrick Perkins. The 2nd best player on the Celtics is Wally Szczerbiak. The 2nd best player on the Nets is an all-star calibar talent no matter how you look at it. Boston's three best playersPaul PierceDelonte WestWally SczerbiakNew Jersey's three best playersVince CarterJason KiddRichard JeffersonIf Vince didn't have Jefferson or Kidd he'd probably start whining like a little baby and say "im not trying as hard as i can" bla bla. Pierce has dealt with a lot in Boston and has been playing incredible despite all the challenges and has NEVER lowered himself to what Vince did in Toronto.A lot of people also think Vince is better just because of his dunks and flashiness. Pierce isn't flashy and therefore isn't as exciting to watch on the basketball floor. Carter is probably better entertainment wise, Pierce is better basketball wise.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Apr 6 2006, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG- Stephon MarburySG- Quinnton RichardsonSF- Kyle KorverPF- Chris WebberC- Eddy Curry</div>Agreed, but add Steve Francis to the list, he can play SG.
I wouldn't call Kyle Korver overrated. Most Sixer fans rip him pretty bad.Add Steve Francis to the list instead and slide Q-Rich to SF.
As BALLAHOLLIC said, Kyle Korver is not overrated.He may be overrated in the eyes of fans who don't watch the Sixers, but Philly fans absolutely do not overrate the guy (atleast not the ones that know anything about basketball).
Not surprisingly, four out of my five are KnicksG- MarburySG- FrancisSF- Quentin RichardsonPF- Chris WebberC- Eddy Curry
