i'm still baffled banchero is not the clear cut #1 pick in this draft with his skillset. The idea that he can potentially be the third pick is startling and I would really try to trade up for him if the price was right.
Clearly higher on Duren's skill level then most here. He has pretty terrible feel with his back to the basket and short arms his hooks right now, but he's way ahead for an 18 year big (especially with his tools) as far as comfort and vision for passing windows in advantage situations and operating in handoffs. Also don't think people understand how bad his context was at Memphis.
He's probably #1 for me too. Safest all-star bet. His size and skill combo is pretty rare. Best outcomes feel like a #2 on offense and #3 on D (I'm fairly high on the defense based on the HS stuff). He seemed to wear down at the end of games and the competitiveness didn't seem to always be there, but that's pretty nit picky. Also whish he was a little more physical and less skill reliant. I don't think his handle and footwork alone create consistent enough good looks to not try and use that frame a bit more.
Maybe, but I'd contend a healthy Oden would have been a dominant player in any era. Sucks that wasn't to be, but that doesn't have much of anything to do with Duren unless he's got concerning medicals. While I do see a Duren healthy Oden comparison, I don't see who is the 2022 Durant who Portland potentially could be passing on. Several of the other guys we're bantering about at #7 are poor shooting wings including the guy who this thread is dedicated to. Back in the day I confess to wanting GO, but I called Durant a Carmelo-esk scorer who could get his shot off at will. After his dominant year at Texas, it was clear he was a superstar to be. STOMP
ya i love the idea of jabari as a prospect, but his handle is so far away from being that of a true #1. unless it improves, i see him being nothing more than an great 3&d guy. Terrific in a vacuum but leaves you just a bit lacking as the #1 pick. Think Orlando should buck the consensus and take Paolo but they'll never do it.
Yep. As far as fits, Paolo-Chet-Jabari feels best to me. You could probably interchange Jabari and Chet though
How good he'll be in 4 years is an unknown. He could definitely end up being in the league of the centers you mentioned.
This is what I’m saying as well. If he was a can’t miss like Embiid, KAT, Ayton, Mobley, I’d have no problem drafting him if he was BPA. But because he lacks any offensive game, I don’t think he’ll be the BPA either.
Yeah, just because there's a bunch of mocks that say something will happen, definitely doesn't make them right. I'm not saying Paolo goes number one. I'm just saying when there is no clearcut number one guy in a draft some crazy shit can happen.
Paolo should be the clear cut #1 pick tho, why the consensus doesn’t trend that way baffles me incoming “BuT hE dOeSnT pLay dEfeNse” comments.
God help us if we take this kid. He’s a prospect and nothing more. We need proven players right now. It’s winning time, not “what if” or “just wait” time.
LOL, are you referring to Dyson or Paolo? All I see on this page is Paolo/Duren talk and nothing about Dyson
Sorry, I just talking about all of those guys in terms of their reputation in college. He had an NBA body right away and already had some offensive skill. Most people thought he’d be better than he’s been thus far, and he was pretty much the consensus #1 pick.
I agree the narrative was Ayton should be the #1 pick. I thought that was a bad decision. He's turned out exactly what I thought his most realistic 'best case' was.... I personally would've drafted Luka #1 & not look back
If the second coming of Tim Duncan arrives, he goes #1. Shaq? #1. Embiid or Jokic? Got it. I’ll stop there because it’s a Captain Obvious scenario. Duren is the ONLY center to draft in the lottery, IMHO Daniels, Dieng, and Sochan — like Duren — are high ceiling guys who will get onto the court early but will take some time.
