All things Jase Richardson

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 3, 2025.

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Blazers GM appoints you assistant and gives you the following options on draft night:

  1. Draft Jase Richardson

    28.6%
  2. Draft Cedric Coward

    42.9%
  3. Draft Nique Clifford

    21.4%
  4. Trade the pick for a future top-ten-protected pick

    7.1%
  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    I will say if we draft Jase and keep both Simons Scoot it will be a logjam at guard!
     
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    Is Jase ready for a big role as a rookie?

    I guess if the Blazers project he's not they could draft him, bench him, but aim to trade Simons at the deadline or let him walk next summer.
     
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  5. Rastapopoulos

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    No - I got this from online from somebody who subscribes.
     
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    Doing some other sloothing - These are freshmen that ended up in the top-10 of the NCAA.

    Zion Williamson - 20.1 (2019)
    Chet Holmgren - 15.0 (2022)
    Evan Mobley - 13.7 (2021)
    Derrick White - 12.4 (2017)
    Brandon Miller - 12.0 (2023)
    Lonzo Ball - 12.0 (2017)
    Jaren Jackson Jr. - 11.7 (2018)
    Onyeka Okongwu - 11.6 (2020)
    Wendell Carter Jr. - 11.4 (2018)
    Reed Sheppard - 11.4 (2024)
    Vernon Carey Jr. - 11.3 (2020)
    Jabari Smith - 11.1 (2022)
    Trae Young - 11.1 (2018)
    Deandre Ayton - 11.0 (2018)

    This appears to be a decent metric to at least find a least a playable guy (assuming good health).
     
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    Jase seems like he has great potential to be a star guard in the NBA. If he was 6'6" hed probably be the clear #2 pick. But being shorter he might be available at our #11 spot.

    Now do the bigger players in the draft have better two way impact if they realize their potential? Absolutely. A player like Camara or Deni is just more helpful to build a contender than a small poor defender like Dame/CJ/Simons are.

    But if we can add a Dame/CJ/Simons type of player at the end of the lottery I'm all for it. That's a huge addition of talent for our future. The two way forwards at #11 are not close to that level of quality. I don't like the idea of drafting old seniors like Coward/Knecht/Kris Murray.

    Scoot defense has been a very pleasant surprise - so a guard rotation with him and Jase would be fine. Probably can't have all three of these guys (with Ant) for more than a season.
     
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    I will be very surprised if he's not available at #11 & expect he'll go somewhere around 16-18

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    Reed Sheppard was seen as a truly elite prospect. Of course, given his struggles in his rookie year, his case might be used as cautionary, but I think that's more to do with Amen Thompson making the leap and Ime Udoka's extreme focus on defense. Sheppard certainly looked fine in the G-League.
     
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    Because the G League has shown to be such an accurate predictor of talent :lol:
     
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    His shooting, hands/anticipation on D / awareness (rebounds and assists) — would love to see him go to Portland as a long-term, back-up point guard. Measured just under 6’2.
     
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    just out of curiosity, I wanted to see the players who have been 6'1 and under in the last half dozen drafts. Jase is 6' 0.5"

    Ky Bowman 6' 1''
    Kyle Guy 6' 0.75''
    Devon Dotson 6' 0''
    Shamorie Ponds 5' 11.5''
    Carsen Edwards 5' 10.75''
    Jared Harper 5' 9.75''
    Tremont Waters 5' 9.5''

    Devon Dotson 6'0.50''
    Myles Powell 6'0.50''
    Cassius Winston 6'0.50''
    Grant Riller 6'0.25''
    Markus Howard 5'9.50''

    Devon Dotson 6'0.50''
    Myles Powell 6'0.50''
    Cassius Winston 6'0.50''
    Grant Riller 6'0.25''
    Markus Howard 5'9.50''

    Jean Montero 6' 1.00''
    JD Davison 6' 0.50''
    Scotty Pippen Jr. 6' 0.00''
    Kennedy Chandler 5' 11.50''

    Adam Flagler 6' 1.00''
    Mike Miles Jr. 6' 0.75''

    Robert Dillingham 6' 1.00''
    Boogie Ellis 6' 0.75''
    Jamal Shead 6' 0.25''
    KJ Simpson 6' 0.25''
    Mark Sears 5' 10.25''

    now, I started in the 2019 draft to hit that half-dozen mark. If I would have started 1 year earlier in the 2018 draft:

    Jalen Brunson 6' 1''
    Collin Sexton 6' 0.5''
    Trae Young 6' 0.5''
    Jevon Carter 6' 0.25''
    Devonte Graham 6' 0.25''
    Aaron Holiday 5' 11.75''
    Carsen Edwards 5' 10.75''

    but the year before that:

    Kadeem Allen 6' 1''
    Frank Mason III 5' 11''
    Derrick Walton Jr. 5' 11''
    Jawun Evans 5' 10.75''

    and the year before that:

    Marcus Paige 6' 0.5''
    Demetrius Jackson 6' 0''
    Tyler Ulis 5' 8.75''
    Kay Felder 5' 8.25''

    2018 was a major outlier from the normal result. And I'm not sure if any of those guys were combo guards rather than PG's. Brunson had spent 3 years at Villanova; Graham 4 years at Kansas
     
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    Check which thread you are in....

    Jase Richardson.

    Skimming his mock -> I don't put much weight into his mock.
    If he wants to call this a 'big board' - I can see some of the arguments for that - but there are some really bad fits for teams here.
     
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    Good thing you could argue that Jase was a better basketball player at same age as nearly everybody on this list.
     
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    Jase: 12-3-2; PER 20.7; winshare/48 .209

    Devon Dotson: 18-4-4; PER 24.9; winshare/48 .238
    Ky Bowman: 19-8-4; PER 19.6; winshare/48 .128
    Myles Powell: 21-4-3; PER 22.3; winshare/48 .163
    Cassius Winston: 19-3-6; PER 23.0; winshare/48 .204
    Grant Riller: 22-5-4; PER 30.6; winshare/48 .225
    Scotty Pippen Jr: 20-4-5; PER 24.0; winshare/48 .185
    Adam Flagler: 16-2-5; PER 19.6; winshare/48 .170
    Rob Dillingham: 15-3-4; PER 23.5; winshare/48 .174
    Jamal Shead: 21-4-3; PER 22.6; winshare/48 .220

    now, those numbers are from their last seasons before entering the draft as sophomores, juniors, and seniors. So yeah, there are age differences and if that's the gauge you want to use, fine

    Richardson could very well be a lot better than any of those guys and at the same time could always be a lot less of a player than Brunson, Sexton, or even somebody like Payton Pritchard. All that's really clear is it's a hell of a lot easier for a 6' guard to be good in college than it is in the NBA

    I'm more than willing to stipulate that Jase is a good player, maybe worthy of a late lottery pick. Just about every player in the draft has flaws. Being 6' is a tougher flaw to overcome than most others though
     
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    Could they be eyeing Ant’s replacement in this draft?

    :bwpopcorn:
     

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