All Things Jeremy Sochan

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    16 year olds do tend to grow... so a few inches isn't too crazy. Who knows though because he didn't get measured at the combine. I'm siting people that might actually know and you're being contrary.
     
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    I've researched this in the past with these sorts of claims and no... 16 year olds do not tend to grow. Science documents that most males are done growing taller by 16. I'd bet a few dollars that the percentage of young men growing 3+" taller while having their wingspan stay the same length is nonexistent. Below is just the first link I found when googling When Do Boys Stop Growing?

    https://www.healthline.com/health/when-do-boys-stop-growing

    Feel free to show me I'm wrong with science links. Jonathan Ginovy writes hype pieces on players... I'm familiar with his work. I'm not being contrary, I'm being realistic.

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    The average male (according to that link) is 5'9". I can help but wonder if they took into consideration the boys who grow
    another ..........10-12 inches.
     
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    I was countering the suggestion that 16 year old males tend to grow with a study documenting the opposite. I'm sure I could come up with more as I have found them in the past. If you come across a study that sheds light on whats typical for larger guys, please feel free to share and enlighten me. It's not uncommon to have outliers to statistical trends so single examples (David Robinson) don't move the needle.

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    I don't have time to find every example but here's one who we know very well... there are tons of these.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CJ_Mc...enefit from,the radar for college recruitment.

    CJ would eventually benefit from a late growth spurt, gaining five inches by his second year and another 4 inches by his third year of high school; it proved enough to put him on the radar for college recruitment.

    CJ was sixteen and seventeen during those two years in highschool. These NBA players have a ton of stories like this because almost exclusively they are outliers when it comes to height.
     
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    tons, sure there are. I'm siding with science and statistics. If you've got something besides outlier anecdotes, please feel free to share. Also Wiki isn't quite a scientific paper or study. Whats funny about this example (for me) is that by CJ's 2nd year in with Portland, I was having arguments with homer posters about him and Dame as a tandem saying that they were too small. Those posters (some of which are still here) insisted that CJ went on a late growth spurt after the NBA combine... when he was 22. People will force a square peg into the round hole just to believe what they want to believe.

    Again, my skepticism about this doesn't matter. Teams will know whats what with the guys they've had in prior to draft day and we'll know next year during the season when Sochan is standing next to known guys. Our debating this won't affect the thinking of those making the call.

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    This anecdotal obviously, but I guess I'm non-existent. I grew about 3 inches between 16 and 20, and my wingspan did not change.
     
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    Bill Walton said he grew 8" the summer of his senior year in HS. He had mono all he did was sleep and get taller.
     
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    I put on 2" after high school.
     
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    The thing that was funny though is my arms grew longer before my body got taller. For a couple of years I looked like a short skinny kid with the world's longest arms. Then I grew into my regular height and arms became normal length. Haha
     
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    I wondered who would catch that!
     
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    And what's being highly disputed by @STOMP is a report from probably the most connected draft analyst in the NBA that Sochan is 3 inches taller than he was when he was still 16. Not because of another current conflicting report but because the average person doesn't do that... despite everyone acknowledging that NBA players are not "average" by any means when it comes to height.
     
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    I am also a grower and not a show-er
     
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    Yeah, they are definitely outside of the normal range.
    Shaedon Sharpe, between his junior and senior years in high school, grew from 6'4" to 6'6".
    who knows, that could be the average for NBA players.
     
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    I grew an inch between 18 & 20. It was slow but it happened.
     
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    Yes it happens, of course. At no point did anyone contend that it doesnt. But that’s not the norm

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