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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I have only had the chance to watch a couple videos but I was frustrated because they were just dunk compilations. I don’t care about his dunks.
     
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    On Eric Bledsoe: “Not really the greatest passer.”
    Scoot is regarded as the best passer in this draft class (though some also say Amen Thompson).
    This video is cued up to the section on Scoot's passing.
    "One-hand zip passes to corner shooters are elite."


     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Scoots shot at least looks clean. Amens form is completely jacked.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I honestly can't decide if he's athletic Chris Paul or buff Sebastian Telfair.
     
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    Those are probably good comparisons.
    It will all come down to his work ethic/mental makeup.
     
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    Interesting comp. Like Chris Paul, Scoot is great with his midrange shot. Which is why I have hope he'll get an at least adequate 3 point shot in the near future.
     
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    So Scoot is Eric Bledsoe turbo version, and that's slightly better than Miller?

    Well, that's uninspiring
     
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    I dunno, there are days when i dont think this draft is worth it at all and others when i think we'd be stupid to trade out of it.

    Some people i trust seem to love Scoot. He's harder to project as a definitive "star" for me though.
     
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    If we elect to keep pick Id much rather get a forward that can shoot rather than an athletic well built small guard that can't. Anyone watching the conference finals will see that shooting & rebounding are priority.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah…..Miller doesn’t look like a star to me. His shot just bothers me.

    Scoot could be a star. If he had a shot he’d be a sure thing.

    After watching breakdowns on Scoot, Miller and Amen, I’m convinced that Shaedon would have been the second pick in this draft.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    CP3 also came into the league without a 3 point shot at 20, shooting below .300 his rookie year. Watching Scoot's passing highlights really reminded me of young Chris Paul.
     
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    My daily reminder:

    Say. No. To. Scoot.
     
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    Yeah.... and he plays off the ball.

    I'm torn. I think pairing him with Shaedon could be a lethal combo down the road.

    I really haven't seen anyone that to me is a sure-thing to take at 3.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    As recently as last night I stated the Miller is my guy. I am vacillating again. I'll probably change my mind a million more times, honestly.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Miller's shot bothers me... but I guess guys have had successful careers with stranger form.

    He also doesn't seem as fluid as I would like for an athletic wing.

    I like Amen's athleticism and his passing.... but the guy has a HORRIBLE shot. He makes Scoot look like Curry.
     
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    I'm not torn at all. I actually think him and Dame can play together as well. And as Dame gets older, he'll need to play less.
     
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    Chris Paul shot 47% on three's during 2 years at Wake Forest; Scoop shot 27% in g-league. CP3 shot 47.2% on FG's; Scoop shot 42.9%. CP3 shot 84% on FT's; Scoop shot 76%. Pretty clearly CP3 was a much better shooter before entering the NBA. And he established that over 63 games. Scoop has some sample size issues since it was only 19 games in G-league, but he didn't really shoot well from anywhere. He had a .537 TS%, and that's below average, and this came against the extremely porous G-League defense

    Scoop, IMO, is nothing like CP3. More like Westbrook at UCLA, although Westbrook was a better shooter (except on FT's). Westbrook had a lower assist/turnover ratio though. Westbrook was the more wow!-worthy athlete though

    I've now watched about 30-35 minutes of video on Scoop that isn't highlight-reel hype. At times I do think he can be a pretty good (probably not great) player. Other times I have my doubts. His floor may be solid and his ceiling may be all-star. But I'm sure not convinced of either. High-reward/high-risk with risk maybe being a little higher

    I haven't been that impressed with Miller though
     
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    Yeah. At first I totally thought that CP3 wasn't a good 3 point shooter, but then I went and looked at his college stats. He was a VERY good college three point shooter.

    One thing that's confusing me though.... this breakdown has Scoot shooting 34% from three and I'm not seeing that. Where is he getting his stats?


    And this youtuber is a good analyst. I watched him a lot last summer before the draft. I like his analysis. So I'm curious where he's getting that number. I saw someone else say that Scoot shot over 30%, but his official GLeague profile has him shooting 27.5% so I don't see how that could be inaccurate. https://gleague.nba.com/player/1630703
     
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    I saw that a while back too. I'm assuming it's just a misprint or the guy had bad data. The only possibility other than mistake I can think of is that since he's comparing Scoop to college prospects there was an adjustment for the difference between the distance of the NCAA three point line and the NBA three point line. I would not trust any formula for that

    like I said....Scoop might end up as good as some of the hype suggests, although I'm a little skeptical. But I do think his shooting could be a big issue. One other thing is I sure haven't seen any real evidence that he's going to be a good defender. he might but I haven't seen it in the videos yet
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah, the defense didn't seem as good as some people like to say.

    But seriously though, at least Scoot's shot looked decent. Amen's shot looked horrible.
     

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