No, I saw him lead his underdog team to the NBA championship, and then follow it with the best record in the NBA (well over 60 wins). He was always that kind of player, just without the talent around him to win as much as the Celtics or Lakers.
why are you so obsessed with efficiency? great players score and win games.. the TS% (which is a bogus stat btw, because it over rewards good FT shooters) and efficiency is nice, but the bottom line is stepping up and leading a team to wins, whether you go 3-22 or 4-6, it's about winning and when you're the star on a team or co-star, you get the credit and take the blame.
TS% correlates more with winning so I have no clue what you're talking about. Yes FT shooting matters, missing two is like missing a basket. Shaq was detrimental to the Lakers in the closing minutes because of this. And I'm not talking about TS% either, more about production per touches.
You're impressed with flawed volume statistics, I never make that the backbone of any defense I make for a player.
I know, but you use TS% as a qualifier for a productive player too. Personally give me a winner and not a stat machine. Statistically Carmello Anthony is a better player than Paul Pierce, but Pierce is the guy I'd want on my team because he has intangibles (that would be stuff the stats don't show ) and I'd love to know how TS% correlates to winning... Does Bill Russell have the highest TS% ever? Micheal Jordan? Magic? Kareem? if the answer is not (and I'm thinking it is) then you're wrong. I wouldn't be surprised to hear Mark Price has an amazing TS%, but he ain't not winner.
personally never been a big fan, and there are not a lot of players drafted ahead of him that I think he is better than.
Carmelo plays on a fast paced team.... He's the kind of example I point to when speaking of volume statistics being flawed. Thanks for the freebie. :] And you've completely misunderstood my point. First, TS% correlates more than FG% with winning. And second I was not referring to just that with the Barry thing.
I read this TS% correlates more with winning so I have no clue what you're talking about and wanted to know how it does correlate more with winning? because it adds FT's and 3PT's on some formula a sports writer created? not feeling it at all. and I know you didn't mention TS% with Barry, but when discussing the merits of other players in other conversations you've had you use it. I'm no fan of TS%, Per or Pace really. The game is played at different speeds by different teams and different eras. Switch a player or team, they pace doesn't change that much. and as I said, I've never been a big fan of Barry. I don't think he's a steal, but this is about where he should go.
yes, but I don't think Vince or Allen are as good as he was. Vince should have been better, but he peaked the year the Raptors made the ECF's and peter off a bit from superstar to all-star.
TS% is not a complex formula like PER, please stop trying to portray it like that. That's not even close to being true. How do FTs and 3's not matter? The basic fundamentals of the game should be easy to understand. If I'm good at those two aspects, I have to touch the ball LESS, to be effective. That's why FG% will always be inferior. Somehow you think I ONLY care about TS%, that's not true so do not say that please. Then you shouldn't be a fan of any stat, stick to intangibles I guess. PER is the only elaborate stat, the others are not so you have no case for disregarding them.
Wade > a lot of the people chosen before him..........including Gary Payton, Scottie Pippen, Parrish, etc......none of those guys ever proved to be a "the man" on their teams. And there are PLENTY of PGs that I can draft later on......
Jordan never got past the celtics, because he didn't have much to work with........same for Nique. Danny Ainge even once said that he thought Nique was good as anyone in the league, he just never had the help..................Nique is one of those guys that had "it" but unfortunately never had a supporting cast around him.
Why does Scottie have to be "the man" for my team. I have Michael Jordan. Scottie and MJ are one of the most formidable duos in the history of the NBA.
that is true. And you already had a SG, so that makes sense. Plus Pippen was a good defender (better than MJ imo)
