I always felt like PatterNash was hired to get rid of the bad publicity players and tear down the team for a rebuild. That they did. Add to it their lousy drafting and the difficulty getting any free agent to come here, and yeah, their sucktitude was pretty epic. Even their coaching hires were bad. Now our rebuild is approaching two decades in the making. Yay.
folowed your and Stomp's interesting exchanges. Just wanted to say that I don't think the whole "trading to a team in the same conference" thing is that big of a deal in this case. Looking at Excremento's roster, most of them are on the wrong side of 30 - they're not competing for a playoff spot after a Boogie trade, regardless. IMHO, they need... 1) Young allstar who is signed for a long time (like CJ, Booker, ....) or 2) Multiple good young players on good contracts who will develop. They're not gonna get the first, PDX can, and is willing, to supply the second. That's why I think we're good trade partners. Since this thread is actually about Crabbe, I'll say that I don't think he's tradeable, even if he didn't have the kicker. If I'm the Kings I don't want him. Philly most certainly doesn't want him. (they've avoided bad contracts like the plague, even to the extent of starting DLeaguers before taking on salary).
Philly is done tanking. They wouldn't spend money in the past but Philly IS looking to spend money this year. They met with Crabbe and wanted to sign him but he signed with the Nets. They threw a big contract at Manu and at JR Smith when both of their teams dragged their feet in signing them. None of the players wanted to go there even though they were willing to overpay was the problem. It wasn't them not willing to spend money.
I mentioned in the trade thread, but Dallas would trade Mathews for him and Cuban loves to bleed money...Crabbe would start there and be a core player making a bit more than Mathews but a much younger player....not sure we'd do that, but it would make Crabbe tradeable
Good point, but I find it extremely unlikely they're willing to blow THAT much money AND give up an asset, too.
Cuban is Matthews' biggest supporter. I think he would entertain the idea but I not positive it is near the slam dunk you think it is. Matthews is looking good (finally - it took a long while).
I just read that he was on the trading block...probably a rumor. Wes is a bona fide 3 and D guy and he's playing well the last few games...you know he hates losing in Dallas..it would be a risky move for us
I don't see Dallas trading Wes, unless the deal is too good to pass up. I also don't see Wes wanting to call me back here, especially to be a bench player.
Why are we talking wes Matthews? Blazers aren't gonna pull that Steve Blake shit with past players. Even in theory I wouldn't want wes back. Sure we all loved him but we made him and he got all mad because he apparently can't see how tearing your Achilles is bad in basketball given the past. Sure he came back but he's not the same and still carries that bullshit chip on his shoulder. If I were to bring any blazer back from that team it would probably be rolo given the fact that's what we need. I would also replace turner with batum to be honest.
PHI is currently over $18 million under the cap. Nerlens Noel makes $4.4 million. So, PHI could absorb Crabbe's entire salary + kicker and still be under the cap. PHI is also $8 million under the salary floor. They will pay that $8 million in a penalty of they don't use it. That's basically an $8 million dollar discount for acquiring Crabbe. Crabbe can waive the trade kicker if he chooses, although I can't imagine why he would. Yes, depending on how Crabbe plays between now and the deadline, and if/how Noel plays, we may need to throw in a pick. Hopefully, Crabbe will play well, increasing his value, and PHI will continue to not let Noel see the floor, decreasing his value, and the pick required to get the deal done will drop from a late first rounder to a future second rounder. BNM
The struggling Crabbe is now shooting 40% on the season from outside, but yeah, i bet he has no value lol! Btw 18m will be the standard for quality bench players, just wait on it.
And his PER is now into double digits - EXACTLY 10.0. With Turner above 12 and Ed Davis at 10.1, we are now down to 3 single digit PER players in our top 10. Yay!!!! BNM
I wouldn't either but someone said Crabbe was untradeable and I thought...no, not if you look at losing teams that overpaid somebody...you could trade and overpaid guy for an overpaid guy and it'd be a wash
If Philadelphia is worried about Bayless health (and his three year contract), they might require us to take him and send us their choice of Napier or Quarterman. Bayless has only played three games this year, seems as if he has had earlier health issues also.
