alright boys, draft time....whats your poison this year?

Unless someone drops it's down to...

Shelden
O'Bryant
Simmons

Give me Shelden.

 

POB has pretty good upside... I'm not really expecting him to be immediate impact type of player, but we need a Dampier type body out there. I'm not convinced Biedrins is a center yet, but I think he dominates against guys 6'9 or a lanky 6'11. Ever since we drafted the kid he had PF body written all over him. Something closer to what Jeff Foster and Jermaine O'neil are like, only those guys are so much stronger than Biedrins is right now. We'll see though... Who said having multiple 7 footers was a bad thing? Foyle vs. Biedrins in practice must be a joke, though... That's like the blind leading the blind across a busy intersection. Either we get a real nba vet that can teach Biedrins or we get another big man prospect. Hell Foyle tutoring and mentoring or practicing against him or whatever Foyle is doing on the roster with Biedrins, is going to screw up his potential.

Also, not sure about Cedric Simmons because he hasn't proven anything and he's like a Stromile Swift type of body, only better passer it seems. I don't want a jumping jack, just a guy that can bruise down low in isolations
or finish on the break. In the past I might have liked guys like Nene or Wilcox because they put up numbers when Kmart or Brand was out, but I like somebody who has great footwork and a nice bulky body that can clear out some space in the paint (scoring from either side of the post with either hand and recognizing the outlet pass).

Going back to POB... the kid is raw, primarly right hand dependent, mechanical in the post, bad footwork, but I think he's a nice prospect when it comes to how much he can fill out his body, get rebounds, block shots, and just intimidate. Long wingspan too. I wouldn't drool over him since he's the only real big man in the draft at center. He can dunk, throw up hookshots, defend, rebound, he can catch... That's better than Foyle right now.

If Sheldon Williams was taller for the center spot, I'd definitely take him. He's more of a complete player than POB and not as mechanical as advertised IMO (esp compared to POB). We need a center or a swing dude not a PF and I don't think any of the smaller guards are BPA that other teams would drool over.

If we can't get a big man for center, I pray at least for Ronnie Brewer and not Rodney Carney. We don't need more guys that shoot threes, can't handle the ball very well, and can't hit free throws. Who the heck cares if they can jump really high and dunk when nobody is around? Unless they do it like Dwade or Kobe or T-mac, forget the dunking. Play like Reggie Miller or Ray Allen or Michael Redd when it comes to offense.

 

Warriors workout updates

Ronnie Brewer
Shawne Williams and Craig Smith(will work out twice)

Have worked out:
Rodney Cardney
JJ Reddick
Kevin Pittsnogle
Hilton Armstrong
Paul Davis

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Warriors workout updates

Ronnie Brewer
Shawne Williams and Craig Smith(will work out twice)

Have worked out:
Rodney Cardney
JJ Reddick
Kevin Pittsnogle
Hilton Armstrong
Paul Davis</div>

VERY glad the W's are taking a good look at Craig Smith. The guy is a player, My ideal scenario-we get Smith as a rd 2 steal-trim him from 6-7 250+ to about 240-and he takes SF from Dunleavy like a Pit Bull takes a Salami Sandwich from a 6 year old.

You want to go to CBS Sportsline's stats where you can see game by game. The ACC tourney had BC playing-in 3 CONSECUTIVE nights-no breaks...Maryland,N Carolina,Duke. Add up the NCAA titles for that trio. Anyhow...Smith goes NUTs. .someting like 18 pts 13 boards and 5 assists avg in those games. That--is CLUTCH. In the NCAA tourney-He's still cookin' Big impact. There's top 15 guys like Carney I never saw do a damn thing to tell me he's round 1. Smith,a projected rd 2-I can picture him starting by Christmas wherever he's picked. His PASSING and ballhandling are unusually good for a wide body type,he is money as an inside scorer. His current build-bulk would appear to mark him as a PF,but I think it's as likely we trim him 10-15 lbs to play SF,as we add 15-20 lbs to C Simmons or Tyrus T so they'd make it at PF.

Carney was getting some attention as a possible SF for us. Won't work. He is just barely 6-6 in shoes and at 205 is 15 lb lighter than Pietrus or J Rich. He's a SG,and one who REALLY likes chucking 3's. The guy has speed + hops-but he's so perimeter he's no more than JJ Reddick witout the accuracy.

 

I do still think at 9,Sheldon W or O'Bryant will be available as our best bet. If both are picked before 9-someone dropped. If it is Eoye-I pass. We still have (stuck with?) Fish,with Monta a "combo" G with more game than Foye . Foye as the 4th guy at a couple of spots is not gonna get minutes enough to even keep the skills he has

Brewer is a legit top 10 candidate as a SG. We don't pick him at 9 to be a reach at SF or PG but the idea that he's versatile/utility,is good. If he's the pick-its cause we move J Rich to SF,let Pietrus-Brewer-Monta share the SG role.

O'Bryant is-20 yrs old..barely,is a legit 7-0 C,is a full size 255-260 so what's there,in terms of run/jump is what you get as opposed to some 225 lb guy with quicks who bulks to 250 and makes Murphy look like Secretariat.
O'Bryant appears to have a good energy level in the game and a good work ethic. A 6-5 Player needs a real high level of skills-drive-desire-wok habits,to just be on the charts come draft day. Semi-ready guys 6-5,6-6 are a dime a dozen. Semi Ready guys 7-0 with ANY skill and ambition can be round 1. we don't appear to have a handy prospect who's a clear threat to start (aside from Sheldon as a short-but skillfull C)......so...taking our chances,now,with P O'B is a pretty good option.

I have ZERO confidence in Monty to develop anyone. However-it's possible to hire a specialist to do what Cliff Ray did,work with the bigs.

I still can't quite resolve the question of if we can take Sheldon W or Pat O which to do. Every instinct says Sheldon. Perhaps because I saw him 10+ games and O'B once.

Rd 2 I like Eric Hicks and Craig Smith. I want them as SF's. Yeah,as-is they fit the profile of a PF-but are short. Smith especially would need to slim to play SF. Hicks? As is he weighs about the same as Artest. He was #3 in the NCAA in offensive boards-#6 in shotblocks...playing as a 6-6 CENTER in the tough Big East. He had 7 shotblocks vs U Conn. A team who's front line go 6-9,6-10,6-11...and they are each expected to be rd 1.

I like to envision a frontcourt of Sheldon-Ike-Hicks...teams would be thinking-These guys are damn RUNTS-but our runts would swat down so many shots,grab boards and generally do some major bangin'

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> do still think at 9,Sheldon W or O'Bryant will be available as our best bet.</div>

If that's the case I hope that we trade the pick. Neither one of those guys are going to make a difference.

 

Final at #9

 

These analysts have it down.

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom...needs_draft.asx

The "core" ain't working as a high scoring team and we need a low post presence!

If we can trade Baron Davis for all-star size, do it.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">These analysts have it down.

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom...needs_draft.asx

The "core" ain't working as a high scoring team and we need a low post presence!

If we can trade Baron Davis for all-star size, do it.</div>

Maybe not for all-star SIZE. There is a rumor that several GMs believe the Warriors and the Celtics are vying for Allen Iverson. Baron and AI make similar money and could be traded straight up.

I dood it.

 

according to realgm, O'Bryant worked out for Richmond and Mullin this morning in New Jersey... Guess this is saying something so late before the draft!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...h_golden_state/

Greetings from the Netherlands

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DutchWarriorFan:</div><div class="quote_post">according to realgm, O'Bryant worked out for Richmond and Mullin this morning in New Jersey... Guess this is saying something so late before the draft!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...h_golden_state/

Greetings from the Netherlands</div>

"In Mullin We Trust."

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DutchWarriorFan:</div><div class="quote_post">according to realgm, O'Bryant worked out for Richmond and Mullin this morning in New Jersey... Guess this is saying something so late before the draft!

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...h_golden_state/

Greetings from the Netherlands</div>

Dank u, for the heads up. I think either Shelden Williams and POB are very good candidates to bring us what we need. It just depends who is available. If neither are available I'll take Brewer.

If we got a good big man project or nba ready big man, I'd hope Rashard Lewis or Shawn Marion is available. Not sure how the Marion contract would work though...