Alvin Gentry: Blazers 'Have More Weapons' Since Last Season's Playoffs

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  1. riverman

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    Good article...keep pushing the ball forward...Dame gets shit done and blames no one ..good to see you back BNM!
     
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    Plus, who's to say that the opponent won't be the one to be able to counter this time. Playoffs takes skill and some lucky breaks along the way. I doubt Lillard would have that performance again if giving the opportunity.
     
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    Now let's see it in the postseasonx when teams trap harder and are allowed to be more physical. For those reasons I still don't believe hes conquered trapping defenses yet. Hopefully he has because we know they'll still run pick n roll to death no matter how hard it's trapped.
     
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    Some people want to take the opinions of others that they don't like and completely pigeon-hole posters into a group that they'll then complain about. I'm an "Olshey basher", yet I get on people for creating false or completely speculated narratives to bash him. Strange. I also havent bashed him once since the Kanter signing because he finally did his job in upgrading the roster.

    Apparently those who want Olshey to take risks have to be okay with any risks possible. Nah, we want him to take the right risks (ex. Blake Griffin, not LaMarcus Aldridge).
     
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    Probably wasn't easy, but you totally mischaracterized what was said.

    Also, without knowing what sort of deal can be had for Griffin or Aldrdige it's really not wise to determine what you prefer. What if BG cost us McCollum, Simons, Collins, filler and a couple firsts and Aldridge can be had for Leonard, Collins, Gary Trent jr. filler and a 2nd round pick? BG is also owed 32, 34 and 37 mil over the next 3 seasons while LMA has 2 seasons at 26 and 24 mil. BG has only averaged around 38 games the past 4 seasons.
     
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    I'm with you on this. I like the effort Olshey has put forth.

    But my interpretation of the LA thing isn't that we trade for him, but rather wait until his contract is up and sign him to a team-friendly deal. LA says he wants to finish his career here, and I'm assuming that's not going to happen if he asks for market value. Seems implicit, but who knows.
     
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    sure, that's the hope...that Hood and Kanter and Curry can somehow have a big enough impact it offsets a poor performance by Dame, CJ or Nurkic....but mostly Dame. I mean, CJ-Aminu-Nurkic averaged 45 points in the regular season last year, but averaged 54 in the playoffs; and they did so on great shooting, but it didn't matter. New Orleans obviously made a calculation that shutting down Dame was the way to beat Portland, and to not worry about the other players, just play them straight up. Worked like a charm.

    now, not every team will have a Holiday & Rondo to attack Dame, or an AD to jump the PnR. I'd be more inclined to think that may be as big a factor as anything Kanter and Hood do. At the same time, I worry that the vulnerability the Pelicans exposed hasn't really been addressed in either personnel or scheme
     
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    I'd rather pay an extra $10M for someone who's a good fit, who's younger, and who's better.

    Also, that 38 games over the past 4 years isnt even close to being right. Im wondering where you got that from, because even adding partial rows on accident gives a result of 45.5 games...
     
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    I dont think its so much about offsetting a bad performance as those guys play well enough that teams cant just throw everything at Dame. If they have enough weapons to keep the defense honest I think that’ll help a lot.

    Im really not sure if they have figured out that problem or not. In fact, I still feel like at times when Traps come it gets Dame on his heels where he cant attack it well.
     
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    Id rather have BG I think he’s overall better then LMA, though yeah I think health is a concern.
     
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    2014-15 67 2015-16 35 2016-17 61 2017-18 58= 221 games = 55 games a year

    that's still not good, but he has played 66 this season, so he might hit 80
     
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    I see where I was off as i just went down the column and didn't notice the season he was traded. Still, the point is that he has had a lot of injuries in his career during the season and in the playoffs.

    Also, BG is owed 55 mil more than Aldridge, not 10mil and that's not even taking into account who we would have to trade and how many draft picks it would take.
     
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    When I get to a computer Im gonna check BBreference cause you guys came up with different numbers...
     
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    @wizenheimer has the correct numbers.
     
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    Where in the world are you getting those game totals?

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    For the next 2 seasons after this would you rather have a lineup up of

    Lillard, McCollum, Harkless, Aldridge and Nurkic

    or Lillard, ?, Harkless, Griffin and Nurkic? With that team salary we wouldn't have much to offer to get a shooting guard.
     
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    33 with one team, 25 with the other, 58 on the season.
     
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    When taking the 2016-2017 to 2018-2019 seasons into account, Blake's played in 185 of a possible 232 games (79.7%).

    That equates to more than 65 games a season.

    For reference, during the same time span Al-Farouq Aminu has played in 198 of a possible 232 games (85.3%)

    That equates to about 70 games a season.

    Nobody talks about Aminu being injury prone, yet many people act like Griffin can't even stay on the court at all. They use Blake's "injury issues" as a reason to not go after Griffin as an upgrade over Aminu. They either overreact to a difference of 5 games a year, or they overreact to his injury issues from more than 3 years ago, when he's completely changed the way he's played which leads to less stress on his legs and body.
     
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    Lillard, Hood, Harkless, Griffin, Nurkic >>> Lillard, McCollum, Harkless, Aldridge, Nurkic.

    Also, if they decide to put Griffin on the market, they're not getting anyone like C.J. back. You're looking at Collins, expirings, and a couple 1sts.
     
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    Yeah, 4 years ago when he still tried to prime-Vince Carter everybody.
     

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