Am I A Complete Dork For Liking This Song?

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  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    lol ok ok ok I will claim the title, are you a Tea Party fan?

    Not baiting, I will admit to being one..

    and I can see that at least you have come to middle ground, so cudos
     
  2. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    I view the tea party people like I do the occupy folks- I support their right to gather and protest and I agree with some of their views.

    One thing I will say... this country is major league screwed up. And I think it worse than most people think. We are now fully past the pint of no return into insolvency. We have one major political party preaching racial/gender/age hate at a fevered pitch that is clearly false and attempting to divide the good people of this country and set them against each other and very few in either party are working together to try and solve some of our major problems. At some point in time (and I think the next 20 years) margin will call. And it's going to be very ugly and lead to even more hate mongering.

    Unless...

    either the people who still have the guts to think for themselves and not blindly follow their party line start voting schmucks out until we get problem solvers in DC or unless a President comes along who can bring people together rather than divide them and work for the good of the country and not political special interests. Someone like Wilson, Truman or Regan.
     
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    You're not a dork for liking it, but you're a dork for starting a thread on this board saying how you like it.
     
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    The obvious different is that the Tea Party doesn't take over public areas for months to "protest", and to keep the public from enjoying those areas. The Tea Party actually gets permits for usage of public areas, and the Occupiers don't, and that's completely ironic for both of them.

    The rest of your post was boilerplate middle-road platitude, so I won't comment on it, because it was milquetoast.
     
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    This is a no spin zone.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    *hiccup*
     
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    hmmm

    ok

    I try to be fair and take a look at the opinions of others

    good post for a middle of the road mind set, if I was to base your age alone on this post I would say you are late twentys or very early thirtys. Based alone upon your not being able to take a stand, rather that trying to placate both points of view.

    I had the advantage of being alive for JFK, If he were to run today he would have a R on his ticket. Kinda gives you the guage to see how far to the left this country has come
     
  9. BLAZER PROPHET

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    OK, I can live with that.
     
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    I'm 55. As I've aged I have realized that neither one party has all the answers. I have also realized that while I appreciate the conflict of views, at some point in time both sides need to work to reach acceptable compromises when they disagree. Beginning with the last year of the Bush Sr presidency it has been two parties at war with each other in a "we win, you lose" mentality. Until that stops, things will just continue to get worse with no abatement.
     
  11. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    ftfy. remember those candybars? they spelled it right.
     
  12. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Speaking of candy bars, remember the Sir bar? Dang, that was my favorite but now it's gone.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    If you have the time, I highly recommend listening to Hardcore History (a podcast about... history) and their take on The Fall of the Roman Republic (and the transition into Empire). The effects of increased pandering, brutal political machinations, and money money money into the political system really rang some of my bells.

    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...es-of-the-Republic-I/ podcast-Rome-Republican
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...of-the-Republic-II/ podcast,Rome-Marius-Sulla
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...Throes-of-the-Republic-III/ Rome-Marius-Sulla
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...-Throes-of-the-Republic-IV/ Rome-Marius-Sulla
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...h-Throes-of-the-Republic-V/ Rome-Marius-Sulla
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/h...h-Throes-of-the-Republic-VI/Rome-Marius-Sulla

    Best 13 hours I spent listening to one guy talk.
     
  14. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Just curious, what is your stance on the republican vow to refuse to increase taxes. That to me, seems like they are unwilling to compromise.
     
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    Just curious, what is your stance on the democratic vow to increase taxes. That, to me, seems like they are unwilling to compromise.
     
  16. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...or-debt-deal/2011/07/06/gIQAAMFk0H_story.html

    “I’m open to tax reform,” McConnell said. “We need to do it broadly. To sort of cherry-pick items in the context of this current negotiation with the White House strikes me as pretty challenging.”

    McConnell said that ending tax preferences is a “big, complicated subject” and that targeting certain industries could hurt the economy. “We want to tackle deficit reduction in a way that doesn’t exacerbate unemployment,” he said.

    Cantor’s apparent turnaround, however, is an indication that some Republicans are cracking open the door to addressing those loopholes if they’re accompanied by tax cuts elsewhere, such as an extension of the payroll tax holiday or changes to the alternative minimum tax.

    But Senate Democrats said Wednesday that the door still isn’t open wide enough. They cast Cantor’s comments as evidence that they had put Republicans “on their heels” over taxes. But they criticized him for insisting that the closing of any loopholes be balanced by more tax cuts.
     
  17. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Let's just clarify. Republicans don't want to increase taxes, and they want to cut a lot of spending. Democrats want to increase taxes and cut spending. So clearly the democrats are to blame for not compromising by saying "Okay, let's do exactly what you want."
     
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    I think it's short sighted. I don't think raising taxes should be part of the answer because it fails to address the core problems, but I believe we need substantial tax reform and when that happens some people's taxes will go up and some will go down. But if raising taxes can be shown to be a proper (I know, a very subjective term) part of the solution, then it must be on the table.
     
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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh, if you only really knew.

    I took a break from claims to work for the feds assisting homeless vets and worked with the state employment department and the amount of federal money purely poured down the drain (let alone the fraud, waste & abuse), would leave you stunned. I'd conservatively estimate 60% at a bare minimum. Yes, we can right the budget with "changes" alone, but it would cut into too many sacred cows.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Thank you. =] I agree that it is not the end of all problems.
     

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