Religion Americans Skeptical Of God But Think Heaven Is Real, Somehow

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  1. Further

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    I don't believe in god or religion, but I'm not ready to say I don't believe there is something that we can't quite understand. Not something magical, but something bound by the laws of nature that we just haven't figured out yet.

    There is an octopus that when it's time to mate, the male reaches in it's nostril (not a real nostril but some hole) and pulls out a sack of sperm, then sticks it in the nostril of a female through her nostril. Now, I can't figure out the how evolution worked, which steps needed to be taken, to get to the point that these octopuses could figure out how to mate in such a way. But it happened, and I understand that there are evolutionary steps that led to this.

    I have no idea what happens after lights out, but I also think that at this point in time, it just doesn't matter. Either everything goes blank and there is nothing left (which is most likely) or there is some component I don't realize yet. But my fretting over this issue is inconsequential. There is no way to ever know.
     
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    I didn't say anything about proof, which is ultimately subjective, but there is plenty of evidence that all human aspects - what makes us who we are - personality, sense of self, memory etc. emerge from and require a physical body/brain.
     
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    I feel like it's been a while though, and it can be fun and sometimes enlightening. People don't have their opinions changed very often but it's always nice to be open minded and try to understand a different point of view.
     
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    Many groups believe in an after life, not just religious groups. Some groups call them angels, others call them spirits, and sometimes ghosts. One group I find fascinating is the spirituality of the Native American Indians.

    The spirituality of some of the Native American tribe’s held that animals were originally humans, and they share the same ancestors. Often a bird or other animal such as a bear held the spirit of a relative, such as a grandparent, that returned to help guide a person through some problem. I find the idea of a relative returning as a spirit to help to be much more comforting than an angel that is unknown to me.

    For the Native American Indians, spirits were not a religion, but a way of life, they live it everyday.
     
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    You can always hope for an asteroid strike or a nuclear war to resolve the mystery before you step off the planet.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    There is no humanity after you die. ;)
     
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    This. Exactly this.

    Paranormal or not, it makes no sense that this mythical "soul" would know anything about synapses, memories, etc. Or perceive in a compatible way: stuff you remember while drunk, with one eye open, tasted when you had a cold, ad infinitum.
     
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    We were created by aliens...... but who created the aliens?
     
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    We did.

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    just like Fry is his own grandfather
     
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    but there was little humanity to begin with:)
     
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    We are on to their game. The Tammy and Jim Bakker show revealed how religion can be a scam. The Catholics have pervert priests that are hushed away from the suspicious and Jews have to contribute sizable % portions of their income. In reality Religion is boring and a manipulative game for the talented. I believe there is another universe or multiple universe concepts and time possibilities. When I die I have little to control but the clever manipulators predict your torture in hell although you won't have a body. door of crap.jpg thtreachery hell.jpg
     
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    Just a few days ago, you said, "you didn't want to pass any genes on"

    It makes me think of this fellow.
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    IMO human consciousness is the biggest mystery to mankind outside the universe.

    From Thales of Miletus to modern-day scientists we only have theories of consciousness -- synapses and awareness.
     
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    Not.

    Mysterious.
     
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    How can someone have blind faith in Apple but not blind faith in an existence greater than himself??? :dunno:
     
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    Steve Jobs and God do share some characteristics... and I've never seen them in a room together, so it could be.

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    I don't have blind faith in Apple, or blind faith in anything. I do expect the sun will rise tomorrow.
     

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