Aminu is not a Starter!

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  1. Pinwheel1

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    Aminu does bring a lot to the team. I appreciate what he does. When he is wide open, and is not tired, sure take the occasional 3.

    But six 3 point attempts seems too many to me....unless he is hot. The problem is that if he is covered while the shot clock is winding down, he isn't really good at dribbling (or passing) out of trouble....which compounds the problem. So maybe he should not be put (or put himself) in that situation? Sometime it actually looks like wants the ball in his hands late in the clock, so he hesitates and does not pass right away.
     
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    I think Stotts likes players who can dribble to play the 3.
     
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    Like Harkless?
     
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    If you look at net-rating (offensive rating - defensive rating) - Aminu is 4th best on the Blazers, behind Z-Co, Bazz and Dame. I would argue that he is fine. Sure, he can get frustrating offensively - but there is a good reason Terry plays him as much as he does - he impacts the game positively.

    https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular Season&TeamID=1610612757

    Add the fact that his USG% is low - I think we are just fine with his offensive issues.
     
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    lol, he's got to play someone....
     
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    Harkless is just enough of a better dribbler than Aminu for Stotts to allow it.
     
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    I use that lineup on 2K. I end up playing Hark and Turner way more. Aminu needs to go.
     
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    Hark can score and finish when you give him the ball.

    Much more consistently than Chief. Every time Aminu gets a rebound I yell for him to get it to a guard.
     
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    And we need all the affordable contracts we can get.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Aminu is a good player if he plays within his limitations.

    He should never try to create something for nothing on offense, try to beat his man off the dribble. Actually the only time he should put the ball on the floor is if he's attacking a closeout in a straight line drive.
    and he should never take a midrange shot
     
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  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The problem is that teams are leaving him wide open on the perimeter and daring him to shoot. And on nights like last night, I would rather just about anyone else taking that shot.

    I like his defense. I like that he gets rebounds. But his offensive game is so limited that he's simply not a good stretch four. Zach's offensive game is so much better than Aminu that it's sickening to have Aminu on the court.

    It is a problem that has gone back almost three years now. Harkless and Aminu are simply too similar in their limitations. Starting both of them makes our life so much harder. When they're both doing their disappearing act, it requires the other starters to play out of their minds. Luckily we have Nurk now, so at least we have three starters that can put up points. Back in the Plumlee days, that probably would have been a loss.
     
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    wow.....you realize Bruce Bowen, Dennis Rodman and Doug Christie were always left open too right? Chief is our 3 and D guy...nothing against Collins but Chief has about the same wingspan as Nurk.....he's one of our best help defenders...and most importantly...he doesn't need to score to help us win games...he also doesn't complain if Collins comes off the bench and plays extended minutes..what's not to like?
     
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    I have a similar reaction. Only, my "cringe" is me screaming at the TV and waiving my arms wildly to get his attention.
     
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    Quit distracting him! He's having a hard enough time as it is! :lol:
     
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    Wait, has Nurk complained, or are you just talking about Mr Robot?
     
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    Bowen was a SIGNIFICANTLY better three point shooter.

    Chief is having his best season from beyond the arc statistically, and he's still way behind Bowen in terms of accuracy.

    Aminu - 39.5% FG and 38.6% from three.

    Bowen consistently put up numbers like this:

    2004-2005: 42% FG and 40% from three

    2005-2006: 43% FG and 42.4% from three

    He had multiple seasons where he was shooting above 40% from three, while also shooting a passable 42-43% from the floor. He was just an all-around better shooter. But Bowen was also much older when he started in the NBA. His first season wasn't until he was 25. He played well into his 30s, and he didn't even get to San Antonio until he turned 30. The Spurs could also afford to have a defensive specialist because they had Stephen Jackson to help score. Their starting lineup was Parker, Jackson, Bowen, Duncan, and Robinson. They never relied on him for his scoring.
     
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    Aminu is fine for right now. I think one of the reasons hes in with the starting lineup is because he adds a defense presence when Dame and CJ are doing their thing. Give Collins the rest of the season to get comfortable and I think Aminu will eventually slot in nicely behind him.
     
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    And SIGNIFICANTLY better defender. Ain't nobody afraid of being defended by Aminu - he's average as fuck on defense.
     
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    Well, since Bruce Bowen isn’t walking through that door, what do you suggest we do until July? The answer we both know is “nothing”; you’re just giving yourself a justification for complaining about something we cannot change.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Aminu's best position is small forward. He plays his best defense at small forward. He puts up a significantly better PER at small forward. It sure seems like Harkless is the weakest link, because right now the lineup of Dame/CJ/Turner/Aminu/Nurk is better by 8 win %.

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    We have yet to see Dame/CJ/Aminu/Collins/Nurk.

    That's the lineup that I want to see.
     
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