Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

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  2. Magic

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  3. Nets

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  6. Bulls

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  1. Hoopguru

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    I still think Chauncey & Joe want Brogdon to help mentor young players.
     
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    Experience only matters if it’s the right kind of experience. Three point shooting is central to today’s NBA offenses. Drives to the hoop hinge on knowing that there are 3 point shooters on the perimeter to kick the ball to when the penetration is stopped. How is Scoot supposed to develop that part of his game when the guys he’s dishing to belong to the brick mason’s union?
     
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    that doesn't change things. Klay has always been an extremely quick touch player that doesn't hold the ball, even in his prime. That's why he worked so well off Curry and Draymond
     
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    I get that you see this as the only route forward; I just disagree with you. I think it’s hard for a Blazers fan to trust in the draft process as the key component in a rebuild when it’s yielded such little success in the past. Trades have had a much greater impact on building the most successful Blazers teams.
     
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    Walton, Drexler, Roy and Dame say hi.
     
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    Soon enough Shaedon will be on this list, hopefully Scoot too
     
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    you're right....a rebuild is the only path forward that makes sense, IMO. Committing to role players like Ant before there is a core in place is dumb and certain to take up residence in Purgatory. That's the Olshey method that failed over and over and over for a decade. Right now, Portland has no core players. Sharpe and Scoot are possibilities, but they are the only ones I see

    if Ant can return a draft pick or two, maybe a prospec, and a sizable TPE that's a good trade for a rebuilding team like Portland. And the same is true of Grant, Ayton, Brogdon, and Thybulle

    and by the way, the trades you speak of occurred when there weren't the trade restrictions in the CBA there are now, and star players didn't have as much leverage in forcing trades
     
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    Two out of four were broken down before they could achieve full success. All needed trades to fill in critical pieces. Dame never got those.
     
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    Who do you want for Ant? Define starting level player. Can you give me a few examples of who you have in mind?
    Whether you start Ant or he comes off the bench, he is going to get you 18-20 points per game because he will still get 30 minutes.
     
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    I’m not committed to keeping any Blazers player currently on the roster. What I am committed to is making smart trades with whatever assets get moved. I don’t consider a ones that only return a bunch of future draft picks to be smart.
     
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    so do Wicks, Petrie, Walton, Lionel Hollins, Bob Gross, Mychal Thompson, Jim Paxson, Darnell Valentine, Fat Lever, Jerome Kersey, Terry Porter, Sabonis, Drazen Petrovich, Jermaine O'Neal, Zach Randolph, Lamarcus Aldridge, & Nic Batum
     
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    who is arguing in favor of making a dumb trade?

    it's funny how these "let's make smart trade arguments" seem to happen so often around Simons

    Ant for Black + 18 + future 1st + 18M TPE....is that a smart trade for the current Blazer situation?
     
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    I never said drafting any guaranteed multiple titles themselves, even if one got us our only title.

    Still its clearly the best way to add elite talent to this franchises roster - which completely refutes your point of trades being more important.
     
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    I didn’t say that the draft wasn’t an important tool, just that it’s not necessarily the key route to building a contender. Walton doesn’t win an NBA title without the ABA dispersal. Roy and LaMarcus never got to achieve success because Roy and Oden broke down. Clyde, Terry and Jerome are your best argument, but they don’t compete without Buck and Duck. Sheed and Pippen are the anti-Clyde team assembled by Whitsitt with trades.
     
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    So you think it was stupid how the Celtics got Tatum and Brown?
     
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    If anything your arguments are proving the draft is the key to constructing a winner in Portland - and after those great drafts a team should do trades as the last final step. Appreciate you proving the point.
     
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    If he's coming off the bench every GM in the league will be able to say.
    "He's a bench player on ine of the worst teams in the NBA..." In negotiations.

    So he's an overpaid bench player on a bad team.

    I think he needs to start until we trade him.

    I don't have a player in mind. I just want him traded for max value. I'd trade him for a future first round pick, for example.
     
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    You’re trying to make this a conversation about Simons, which is not my intention. I see nothing around here but trade proposals that move experienced, talented guys for not much but picks for drafted rookies. I want to see some experienced, talented guys coming back; not just dreck and picks.
     
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    Blazers don't acquire experienced guys when Dame is here - actually the opposite in sending out Hart for a pick.

    But now that the team traded Dame away, had the 3rd worst record in the league, and has a loaded draft next summer you want to add experienced guys to the roster?

    That's a horrific strategy.
     
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    Count the Blazers’ draft picks.
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