Anfernee Simons trade destinations

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Where does Ant land?

  1. Spurs

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    15.9%
  2. Magic

    14 vote(s)
    31.8%
  3. Nets

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    2.3%
  4. Knicks

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  5. Jazz

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  6. Bulls

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  7. Other

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    9.1%
  8. Blazers 2024/25

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    38.6%
  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Ant's TS% was slightly better (primatly due to 3P%). Nearly every other advanced stat favors Dame, most by a massive margin.

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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    As a scorer off the bench. At least, I'm hoping that's what teams think.

    If they don't think that I'm afraid his value is going to drop quickly.

    Again, I'm not saying he's bad. Just not what I want to build a team around if we're already sucking. He's not a cornerstone player.
     
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  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I guess all I was saying is some might want a pg that leads an offense, plays defense, draws fouls, rather than jacks up 3s. He improved a lot after the glasses
     
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    I agree that defensive ratings are more of a team-centric stat and comparing them across the board doesn't really work

    however, I do think defensive rating rankings for each team reveal a lot, especially how much better, or worse, a player is than his team
     
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    McCollum was stepping up his defense. There's no doubt about it. He was being more physical with driving opponents. No more hand down man down with CJ. He got steals and blocks. It was a different style of performance then we saw in Portland. Coaching? maybe? Or just a natural progression of a veteran player adding new talents to his skillset.
     
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    I don't think Ant is overpaid.
     
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    When has Scoot showed he can do that yet? Only in flashes...

    you said play defense, if you been reading, Scoot defensive stats is almost the same as Ant! So where this I want defense coming from?

    And, Scoot can play and start at PG. Simons at the 2....now you going to say something about why you dont want Ant at the 2 lol..

    I also want a PG that doesn't turn the ball over like crazy in Scoot, that can spread the floor consistently, Scoot hasn't, and actually shows good basketball IQ, Scoot just full speed mode all the time...

    Scoot has a lot of prove and the jury is still out on him
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Looking at Scoots full season stats is pointless. The first half of the season he was terrible and he was adjusting to the speed of the NBA. The second half he looked much better and started to show signs of improvement. I’m not at all interested in discussing the first half. I’m only interested in discussing the second half.
     
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    Blazers' second half stats:
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    Apparently Scoot was almost as good as Banton!

    Per 48 Anfernee's assists look pretty comparable (but they both have terrible A/TO ratios):
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  10. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wait, Grant averaged over 10 FTA a game in those 18 games!?
     
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    Assuming the Banton crack was sarcasm? Scoot looks better at everything except rebounding in those comparisons. Banton shot more than Scoot, but Scoot was the better 3pt and FT shooter, and got twice as many assists. Overall shooting % is similar.
     
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    We don't have a PG on this roster that is a better passer than Scoot. And after 6 years in the league Ant turns the ball over just as often as our rookie PG.
     
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    Teams that provide Ant (and his game) an opportunity to flourish:

    San Antonio: who needs to play defense when you are backed up by Wemby!? And Ant would spread the floor nicely!

    Brooklyn: They got nothing of a team but hey its New York and they need fans in the seats and to keep things exciting - turn Ant loose and he becomes a 26-30 point a game scorer and fan favorite

    Charlotte: Ant can stand behind the three point line and wait for the ball to be kicked out to him - he’ll average 22-24 points per game in his sleep

    Chicago: If they unload vets, Ant is a good pick up as he can score. A similar situation as would be Brooklyn

    Atlanta: Shortest PG / SG combo in the leaugue, but the Hawks need another guard

    Other landing spots:

    Orlando
    Utah
    NY Knicks
    Indiana

    thoughts?
     
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    Where were you when people have been using Ant’s 3 season to start his career in which he barely played to justify some defensive stats and other crap? You only speak up when it’s about Scoot lol.

    you guys really have a bias thing against Ant, I don’t care if others say otherwise it’s clear as day, the same like 4-5 people repeating their opinion about Ant over and over.

    If we trade Ant, who are you trying going to point your negativity towards after? Ayton? Sharpe? Actually it will be Grant if he is on the team if Ant is traded.
     
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    ?

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    Wrong once again. You just love to put your foot in your mouth over and over don’t you?

    Scoot averaged more in less minutes, what are you talking about?

    look at their per 36 mins. You make zero sense all the time in here lol sorry to say
     
  17. blazerkor

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    Atlanta is obviously a joke.

    I think San Antonio should definitely try to get Ant, him and Castle make a lot of sense as a back court with Wemby in the front court. That being said they currently have CP3, Graham and Tre Jones all of whom are really small guards. I guess we could take Graham and Jones, just waive one and have the other back up Scoot. Obviously we'd need a FRP and maybe even two.

    I don't know how much sense Chicago or Brooklyn make just because Brooklyn already has an all offense no defense in Cam Johnson and Chicago has Coby White.

    I've thought for a while that Ant would fit nicely next to LaMelo, so yeah Charlotte makes sense.

    I still think that the Magic make the most sense of any team in the league.

    Utah doesn't need another guard, Indiana doesn't need another guard and the Knicks... don't need another guard.
     
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    ...On fewer attempts. Look at assist to turnover ratio.

    Scoot is the far superior playmaker.
     
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    Try again, you said he turns the ball over just as much lol.

    Ant was also having the best defensive player guarding him while Scoot was playing a large chunk off the bench Vs second units. Big difference

    And I wasn’t even talking to you, I don’t know why you have to keep rambling on and on about Ant, we get it already for the millionth time, you’re a Ant hater
     
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    Good work. At this point I would trade Ant for Portland’s pick back from Chicago and Ball’s expiring if Ant will not be the sixth man in Portland until a good deal is found for him. Brunson and Mitchell are just two examples of short scoring guards that can light it up making the case for Ant eventually having a market for him. Just doesn’t seem to be this year. Personally I just don’t want Ant on this team playing me ball. I am great with Shae at the 2, not the 3. I am looking forward to seeing Scoot with Shae, Ayton and now Avdija. Scoot was a young rookie playing the toughest position to learn in the NBA. I expect his turnovers to go down, but I can accept 3.6 turnovers again if he is getting double that in assists, which is what I anticipate once Portland has built a contender. As to his shooting, his FT% is stellar, leading one to believe his 3 pt fg% will improve with experience. I have no doubt Scoot is working hard as I type this working on everything we want him to, and more. I am truly more concerned with Shae being the player we want him to ascend to being than I am Scoot.
     
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