Another available young big man

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Sorry to hear about the browser hijack issue. It's definitely not the site - most likely your machine as Run BJM said.

    You might try looking at your process list (task manager) and see if there's something suspicious there.

    I've been using Microsoft's Essentials for anti-malware and it's nice because it doesn't hog a lot of the machine checking for viruses...
     
  2. i hate the warriors

    i hate the warriors Slingboxing from LONDON

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    I don't know if it's worth me replying if my posts are going to just get deleted. My attacks aren't personal at all, I don't know you...i'm lumping you in with a generalized group that it sounds like you resemble. and i can dig what you're saying there, because i agree that a large proportion of laker fans are full of shit, and blindly and ignorantly support the team. but i have grown up in an environment where you support your team til your casket closes...i am a warriors, 49ers and giants fan until death...regardless of players, records, etc. so, i guess i can't really empathize with jumping ship. and i don't really understand the concept of rooting for players and not teams. so, when you say that you owe the lakers nothing, i disagree in a sense. if that's your team, ride it out. all of us warrior fans had to deal with the jackass bandwagon fans in '07 that came out of the woodwork. they didn't represent me, and i had no respect for them....but that's not gonna make me stop supporting them. you might be a real cool dude, i don't know. but from the obviously minuscule amount of info i have to judge you, you sound disloyal. that's all i'm saying.
     
  3. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Alright I'm cool with that.
     
  4. jason bourne

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    Murphy is an expiring. Gadz is doing better and bringing energy off the bench, so I rather do the BWright and Radman for him, but it may not be enough for the Nets. We'll have to see what other offers they get.

    Avery is a disciplinarian, so he's gonna have trouble with some players in this league. He's too much of a control freak, so he's off my list of coaches I'd want for the Warriors. I can't believe he sent TWill to the D-league as punishment for being tardy. That's not what the D-league is for. LOL.
     
  5. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Totally agree. Avery is a hard ass which isn't a bad thing for an NBA coach but this isn't college- you can't control every single thing that grown men do. And its not just about dealing with personalities. He never changes his vanilla offense or defense. NBA is all about matchups and he doesn't adapt. Sending a player to the D-League as a punishment is only going to lose respect from the players as well as around the league. Stern doesn't want Avery disrespecting the D-League like that and D-League people don't want their operations to be shit on because NBA coaches think its a freakin punishment to be there. They're doing a great thing by trying to create a legitimate minor league for the NBA and Avery is selfishly disrespecting it instead of dealing with the problem himself.

    And yeah Gadz is my favorite bench player thus far but once Lou and Ekpe come back they'll replace his skills and probably do even better. Murphy at least adds shooting and good rebounding- something we lack off the bench with Lou, Adrien, Gadz, Wright.

    But you'd think it would probably take BWright to get Murphy. Why would they trade a double double PF with an expiring contracts for a shitty player with an expiring contract? Murphy has value because hes a rental player who provides two things NBA teams can't get enough of- shooting and rebounding. And hes expiring. At least if they're swapping expirings Wright is young, can be re-signed cheap, and has some potential.
     
  6. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Paul Westphal kicked Demarcus Cousins out of practice today. There have been a lot of grumblings about Demarcus' crazy antics in Sac but this is the first tangible incident with evidence. We probably don't have a shot of getting either JT or Cousins but at least the Kings promising young talent are imploding and they don't seem to be that much of a threat. Still say that I wouldn't trade Curry for Tyreke and at this point would anyone trade Udoh for Cousins? Perhaps if you believe GS has enough of a support system and culture of accountability. Not sure if Smart, Monta, and Lee as the key personalities in the locker room are enough to get that done.

    In other news the D-League is beginning to get rolling. Antonio Daniels is down there averaging 18 ppg, 7.7 reb, 7.3 assists. Aaron Miles putting up 15/11 ast with a 5.38 ast/TO ratio. Nick Fazekas is back in Nevada playing for GSW's Reno Bighorns putting up numbers much like he did in college- 16.5 ppg, 9.8 rpg. If anyone followed Syracuse the past few years they'll know a guy by the name of Paul Harris. Hes a 6'4 220 lb. SG/SF who is a sensational rebounder for his size, a great athlete, and can score fairly well. Poor handle and not known for defense but he crushes the glass and hen hes on the floor he just makes things happen by being in the right place at the right time.
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I bet getting Demarcus Cousins now is like getting MIchael Beasley. Yeah, you get the talent, but all the team destabilizing red flags with it. I don't know if it's a question of maturity level, overall iq, attitude or all the above... but it's risky... Let's see how Udoh plays out. He starts with defense first, which is important. For all we know he could be one of those guys that has some offensive talent, but doesn't need the ball to be motivated on defense. With Cousins, he might possibly be Dampier-like (Disappears unless he gets touches or there's money involved).
     
  8. AlleyOop

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    Actually, Beasley "Be-Easy" is looking pretty damn good for Minny. Sweet jumper, all the athleticism, and seems to have his head screwed on straight. I thought he was going to be a mental bust be he seems to have pulled out of it IMO. Don't know about Cousins though...

    I still think Wesley Johnson will be the second best draft player after John Wall.
     
  9. Run BJM

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    Yeah Beasley looks nuts but I'm not convinced he'll be a winner. Breaking out scoring wise is an understatement- he looks like another Melo. But it doesn't seem like he has much else to offer in the way of making team mates better, playing efficiently, playing great defense, doing the little things, being a leader, etc. No shame in being mini-Melo or Glenn Robinson part deaux but hes not a guy you build around IMO.

    And yeah I still like Wes Johnson. I liked Turner more but hes been unimpressive so far. I also liked Favors a lot and hes doing well thus far. Wes looks sort of lost though, hes not drilling shots like he was in college and shooting is a big part of his game. Hes also a guy who seems like he would benefit from a great PG feeding him and not so much as a guy you give the ball to and tell him to score one on one. But Cousins looks like bad news and Turner and Wes have been disappointing thus far. No one after Udoh has done much either. Can't wait to see what Ekpe's got.
     
  10. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    David Lee is the the closest thing to Pau Gasol in terms of overall game
     
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    They both pass well for big men, they both rebound well, and the both have good post games. But Lee doesn't block shots. He also likes to face up and then drive like a guard. He likes to run the break. Gasol is much more of a traditional big man, IMO. He's a legit 7 feet, and he is better in the paint than on the perimeter.

    Anyway, the closest thing to Gasol is Gasol. Marc, that is.
     
  12. Run BJM

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    Disagree with both of you. Lee isn't much like Gasol IMO. Lee doesn't have a good post game IMO (though hes shown a few nice moves lately) and Pau has the best one in the league right now. Pau much more of a shotblocker and although hes a good rebounder I don't think hes as good as Lee. Both can pass though. Lee is all hustle too and operates a ton in the high post for us and on the pick and roll. Pau doesn't do a whole lot of that. Gasol is an excellent finisher too and Lee has just looked so-so finishing at the rim for us so far although Knicks fans lead us to believe Lee is one of the best finishers in the league.

    IMO Gasol has kind of turned into what Duncan used to be minus some defensive impact. Prime Duncan >>> Gasol but IMO there are similarities with the skill on the block, outside game, shotblocking, etc. Marc Gasol is a little similar but not nearly as dominant of a scorer IMO. Brook Lopez sort of reminds me of Pau though hes not as agile.
     

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