It’s all very fuzzy at the moment, I’m not certain about which set of facts are actually facts. I don’t know that this reaches Trump, and I don’t know if this precludes other things from also being true. I posted on this board before and after the election, posting after doesn’t meant I didn’t also post before. What I do know is that there are several well known felonies that Flynn was not charged with and that the plea was very generous. This only makes sense if Mueller knows there are bigger fish and bigger crimes that need elucidation. Flynn was very high up. There are only a handful of people who Flynn could conceivably flip on that make sense. It might not be Trump, it might be Pence, Kushner or some other top ranking official but it’s someone and it’s certainly going to be hugely important. Hey, for those conservatives on here, there is a very outside chance it’s Obama.
You don’t seem to understand what politics is if you think this is politics as usual. These are felons in politics. Granted, most politicians will lie and tell their constituents what they think they need to and that’s distasteful. Flynn had planned to kidnap someone off American soil and ship them to a hostile foreign government. That’s not what Pelosi, Romney, McCain, Obama or just about any elected official does. It’s like comparing telling a woman at a bar she has s nice butt to child molestation.
What's incorrect? The incorrect part was the report that Flynn would say Trump had him contact Russia before the election. Then they corrected it to say that it was after.
I think at this point it just seems likely that if they were doing illegal stuff that Trump wanted plausible deniability.
And if this story is true, logically Flynn isn't saying anything that incriminates Trump. Trump could have been talking to Putin minutes or weeks prior but apparently Flynn ain't saying that.
When faced with the “checkmate” realization that they supported a criminal or criminal action, people generally use nihilism as a defense, trying to reduce the moral crimes which they tacitly support so they don’t have to admit they support actual criminals or criminal activities.
We don't know what Flynn is or isn't saying. You'll have to wait for the next episode. Tune in again next month... barfo
Was responding to the story. If we can't go by the articles we need to pretend it isn't happening until we have the ending. As I said right away...HUUURRRY UP. I always wanna know the truth. If Donald is dirty....lock his old ass up. Same with Hillary or Obama or anyone else not past any statute of limitations.
Meanwhile, Donny Dumbass seems to have tweet-pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice this morning. And to excuse it, they are claiming his attorney wrote the tweet. Hmm... barfo
You aren’t understanding. I’m saying in general this is how dirty politics is, whether it’s drone strikes or shit done behind closed doors. Whether it’s our intelligence agencies like the cia and fbi being historically corrupt or the politicians lying to you but they all hang at the same events regardless if the people think they hate each other. It’s a big game. Bernie Sanders for example screwed over by the dnc which is proven. Then he proceeded to campaign for Hillary after this. Bush and the “weapons of mass destruction”. Obama’s drones. Even trump already has some civilian kills under his belt with drones. Sure it’s not kidnapping somebody but I would bet these presidents do a lot of dark shit behind closed doors
It appears that Flynn is giving something good to Mueller because Mueller is letting him keep his money. Mueller is going after Manafort's money.
What money? Illegally gotten money? The cops will stop an old guy driving with 30 grand to go buy a classic car and keep his money cuz drugs and Flynn is gonna get to keep what and how much?
If every single motherfucking one of them is really a Lizard person I won't be surprised. I was kinda hoping Trump would tell us how fucked up the Presidency was, not make it worse. If you search this forum you'd eventually find where I said I would vote for a Clinton...Chelsea, if she told us how fucked up things were and would fix it. Or something to that effect. You know it will make the hollywood sex fiend coverups look like a traffic ticket.
Here's Donny's so called confession with one word added. See if it looks like a confession now. "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and now the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!"
Yeah I’m not putting any weight into that tweet because Trump is functionally illiterate. But I think Mueller has way more solid evidence than that would be anyway.
Lol I don’t go that far. I don’t know. I just see everybody divided all the time over this left and right shit and it’s all just a game. Its like some blood and crip shit. Even have the same colors. Red and blue. It’s crazy to me that people get insane on each other over their candidate. This news never surprised me. I mean if anybody has followed politics and what goes on with these powerful people, for years and years they have done this shit and gotten away with it. Never cared about Hillary or trump. Sanders is even a great liar. The dude has multiple houses and he’s just out here being a hypocrite. Then he sold out and gave into the dnc after even knowing they went with Hillary. Trump wasn’t obviously a never good candidate either. Everybody thinks Obama is perfect I know but that run wasn’t as pretty as people make it out to be. Bush was a lot of the same. Clinton, etc. go down the line. JFK tried to speak out but ended up getting his brains blown out in broad daylight followed by history teachers telling students of the magic bullet which is all horse shit. It’s a game
What's the point here? That if you add words to Trump's statements they can mean different things? Here, I'll add a few, let me know if this looks more like a confession to you: "I had to fire General Flynn because the media found out and I didn't want to take the blame myself. I am fucking guilty as sin. Been a criminal all my life, why would I stop now?" barfo
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-us-fight-against-isis-653564 I understand fine what you are saying, its just that you've been misled by your podcasts to see politics as just bad in every way period. Sure, you will find something to dislike about every politician, but unless we live in total anarchy we are going to have politicians so instead of just shaking your finger, try and discern between the better ones and the worse ones. More importantly, try and discern between the better policies and the worse policies they support. On a side note, I have met several politicians that have been wonderful people. Republican former Governor Atiyeh for example and the famed Portland Mayor Bud Clark. These people aren't poltergeists, they are people. Yes, anyone looking for the top spot, the President, is likely to be too self-important, but still a person who likely at some point in time wanted to do good. Not all, but most of the time i believe tat to be true. Anyways, why do you care to discuss any of it if you think its all BS and theres no better options?
