OT Antarctic ice loss has tripled in a decade. If that continues, we are in serious trouble

Just because you talk to someone like they're an idiot, doesn't actually make them an idiot. It just makes you a person who talks down to everyone.

We all know what the seasons are, thanks barfo.

 

Daily? No, that happened as man began to flourish. It accelerated during the industrial revolution and now it's accelerated even further under Mr. Potato Head.

 

And?

My point is why should we accelerate it when maybe we can reverse it?

 

Are you serious? I honestly thought you were joking. I liked the post because it was so full of false info it was entertaining.

I'll break it down for you. But will start from the end of your story.

1) You imply the spotted owls (SO) only eat mice. False
The SO do eat mice, but their favorite food is squirrel.

2) You imply there is a shortage of mice in the woods. False
There are also plenty of squirrels.

3) You imply the false mice shortage is due to a shortage of water. False
The pacific NW has plenty of water in the forests even during a very dry season. I have never heard of any wild critters dying of thirst here.

4) You imply the mice only get water by eating some un-named mushroom that only grows on old growth trees. False
Mice do get much of the water they need from what they eat. But they like high carb foods such as seeds. Mushrooms are a low carb food source.. Mice will eat almost anything. Starving mice are known to eat each other to survive.

 

well...forest fires happen and wildlife dies even in the NW...fire kind of dries up water in some areas.

 

A valid point.
But...
Mice can dig to find water and escape fires. Fires only reduce the amount of water above the surface.

 

Didn't scientists predict in the 1960s that Florida would be under water by the 1980s?

Ice, either hurry up and melt, or shut the fuck up already.







.....oh, wait, I'm sorry...this is clearly Trump's fault. Not China, India, or Russia's fault. Just Trump.

 

Ooh! Once is enough!

Nothing is this good. It could be that bad.

 

1. I never said they only eat mice, I never even meant it. But that's irrelevant to the result. They eat mice and when they do they spread mushroom spores. Is that difficult to comprehend?
2. I also never intended anyone to mistake that there is a shortage of mice. I meant to discuss the spotted owl and it's diet;
3. What shortage of water and how does a mouse eating a mushroom have anything to do a lack of water that unless the association is conjured up? I meant to make it clear that it was the trees that needed the water even in times of drought or a shortage of rainfall during a season;
4. Saying you are laughing is a serious denigration of a poster. Don't do that if you want to continue a discussion.

Edit: The spotted owl lives in old growth forests. The point was that for the continued health of old growth forests we should think more about the valuable contribution of the spotted owl.

 

I don't remember seeing that Florida would be under water by the 1980s but I can tell you that Miami has a serious problem with tidal flooding. I can also tell you that sea levels are rising. I believe I've seen where most sea levels have risen about 4 to 6 inches. Why would that be?

 

Magnetic poles do affect the Earth's climate significantly. Mars lost it's magnetic poles and solar winds then wiped away most of the atmosphere. The poles are vital to our climate.

In the short run, I'd have to agree with you.

 

And..
Why don't you tell us what valuable contribution the spotted owl makes.

The spotted owl lives in the nests of other birds. It is too lazy to make it's own nest. It also lives in rock craveses and holes in large trees.

The SO does not defend its nest, it is too lazy. Their young and un-hatched eggs are easy pickings for predators.

I fully support improving and balancing the ecosystem of our public lands. However there is way too much misleading information being generated. I believe the info in your post was very misleading.

 

The mycologist master that taught the Mt Pisgah classes for years died from slicing his hand cutting a poisonous mushroom...my wife went to that camp years ago..it only takes one mistake...I stick to 4 or 5 varieties I know I can trust

 

I always wondered who was hunting spotted owls!

 

Not much hunting needed.
The spotted owl likes to live in the nest of predator birds. Some of them are the very predators that like to munch on the SO, their young and eggs.

I'm amazed we still have any SOs.

 

Oh Trump is exterminating entire species now? Lol. Your hysteria alone is enough to discredit the things you say.

 

Geographic poles don't mean shit, why did you even bring them up? Irrelevant information you are using to split hairs. Magnetic poles move significantly AND affect the climate...SIGNIFICANTLY. It's a fact. No point trying to slide out of the stranglehold science has on your political agenda by using semantics.

 

I don't trust any of them!
Well, it is my knowledge of them, where I lack trust.