OT Anthem Politics

As you've said before.

I'll comment, but due to some wanting a divide it doesn't matter.
I find the tattoo offensive and at the very least he should be forced to cover it up at all times while on the job.
As well as being confined to a desk at all times where he can't hurt anyone. He also should be allowed no weapons while on the job/in uniform.
If he refuses a pink slip should be waiting.
Law enforcement is expected to serve and protect all, as this is clearly an example of someone who wants a divide.. there should be repercussions.

Edit - I personally believe he shouldn't be allowed to purchase weapons legally at all. But that's another topic

 

I personally don't watch sports to hear about political statements.
If someone was sitting during the national anthem I would pay them no attention as they don't matter to me at that event.
I'm there to watch a game and turnoff from the world. Not someone force a political view down my throat.
Just like I paid no attention to Starbucks baristas trying to create a race conversation with me(when they were encouraged to do that). I was there for one thing coffee.

More power to them, if they wish to sit or kneel during though. But that's between their employer and them.

 

Forcing the anthem and flag salute down our collective throats at every single sporting event is nothing more than an exercise in indoctrination and forced conformity. I am glad as fuck to be an American, and to live in the United States of America. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or be a citizen of any other country. I am lucky beyond words to have been born here and to have the life I have. But I have always resented the forced national anthem and flag salute and the rote indoctrination it represents shoved down my throat every time I try to watch a basketball game. The sheer hatred and vitriol than any individual has to endure if they don't submit to it ensures that this political/religious ceremony is inescapable, and it's not going to end.

 

I think the whole point of playing the anthem before sporting events is something like this.

"Hey we're about to have a lot of fun, and watch the best athletes in the world play an awesome game, that all of us love. We have all been afforded the freedom to do this, because of the sacrifices made by the men and women of this country. Many of whom, will never get the chance to enjoy this freedom, because they are no longer with us. So let's take a minute and pay some respect to those men and women, and appreciate the fact that all of this is possible."

They started playing the national anthem at baseball games (shortly after WWI I believe) and it went from there.

But I really don't see the correlation between the national anthem, and oppression. What does the national anthem have to do with it?

It has nothing to do with it. He chose to sit during the national anthem because he knew it would be seen as disrespectful, and it would get attention. But I don't know why a man with millions of followers, and millions of dollars couldn't get some attention on the subject of oppression, without disrespecting so many people in the process. I think he really shot himself in the foot here, because now there's two conversations; one negative, and one positive.

That being said, I am not offended by him sitting. At all. But there was clearly a better way to "start the conversation".

 

I think Seattle got it right.

 

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/6957582/the-history-national-anthem-sports-espn-magazine

 

Bruce Miller was cut because of that..... there was plenty said about him. What is that guy even talking about?

 

I vote that we officially change the national anthem to "We will rock you" by Queen.

They already play it at all sporting events anyway.

 

Yes, I do.

 

Yep, "We Will Rock You" before the games and "Uprising" by Muse to replace "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch in baseball and during 4th quarter timeouts at all football and basketball games.

BNM

 

Hahahahaha! Why can't Trey and Matt run for co-president?

 

I was thinking more "I Am The Slime"- Mothers Of Invention

 

What I find amusing is the "rawr! nobody talks about THAT thing! rawr!"

We are basically at the mercy of the national media. They give us the news and they only seem to push stuff that they know will REALLY piss people off. A football player punching someone is not news. It's not the first time and it won't be the last. A football player not standing for the national anthem WAS news. Now it's getting old.

 

Well I do see his agenda but it doesn't belong in sports or toward our flag. I am a veteran and I have 2 boys went to combat to fight for this country and for the flag. If a military man or woman would do that they would be punish because they have no choices. What happening in this country has nothing to do with the flag it as something to do with some people that don't use there head. So kneeling down or holding arms together it not the answer. But it is there right to do it you can think the men and women in the uniform so you got that freedom. But me it is a slap in the face to everyone that ever put on the uniform.

 

So we both agree slavery in America (not our current corporate form of slavery which is colorblind) has never existed in your lifetime. You have not been Officially discriminated against by your Federal government.

Affirmative Action, which gives all residents of the US who are not white males a guaranteed cut-ahead-in-line for any of the 3,000,000 civilian jobs in Federal Government, has existed for your entire lifetime, and a majority of mine. It forced me to abandon my chosen career of public service after 17 years, spend time and money on night school and completely change careers, change my family's lifestyle and place of residence, take on a second job for most of my life, and have 17 less years to rise and prosper in my new career. It's like starting up a 2 flight stairway to your goal and getting up one flight only to be moved to the bottom of a different 2 flight stairway with no goal at the top which you'll never reach anyway due to our limited lifespans. I have about a dozen close friends in the same boat. It destroyed some lives. They've been actually harmed far, far worse by discrimination than you ever have. My sons face the same discrimination every day and so will my grandson and granddaughter when they seek admittance to the college of their choice and when they choose a career of their liking.

Obviously, all members of my race are owed financial reparations for the catastrophic damage this un-Constitutional discrimination has inflicted on our lives and loved ones.

But that's okay, I'm not asking for my "fair share" from The Collective. I'm a resourceful person who was raised with a decent work ethic and a sense of personal responsibility. I'm living the dream here in Beautiful Central Oregon. Neither of us has to look very far to find people/countries in worse shape.

 

Love it! That's what it's all about.