OT Anthem Politics

Agreed. It seems like artificial patriotism.

 

You know who else died for this country?

Over 5 million black slaves and 80+ million natives.

But #alllivesmatter...

Bullshit. All lives have never mattered...

 

Perfect. Great post.

 

I think I finally see the disconnect with some of the race discussion. Tell me if I'm off base.

People who say all lives matter aren't thinking about what happened before a lot of them were born. They feel every life is equal.

On the other side, some call that bs because of the complete injustice that happened before they were born.

Now, there are still injustices going on that both the blacklivesmatter and the alllivesmatter crowd both agree needs to change, but cant get on the same page because of things that happened before most were born

 

There is just no way these discussions go that far ever. It's like politics. Nobody ever agrees. Too much hate in the world. Once people stop living in the past and learn to love instead of hate then maybe we can get somewhere but we have too many 18-22 year olds thinking they know everything about the world. I don't care that he did what he did, all I say is, put your money where your mouth is, you wanna change the world? Okay then go and actually attempt to, don't just kneel and tell me you're making a difference. No, you aren't. Good thing I stay away from nonsense discussions like this in life because it pretty much goes no where 100 percent of the time. I don't give a fuck what color you are, if you're a cool person then fuck it lets chill and share some damn stories. Shits not difficult

 

I somewhat disagree.

All lives do matter.

But you know who else died? 500,000 white Americans trying to end slavery.
Slavery has been around since the beginning of time. It isn't something Americans invented.
America should not be held to this.... "we owned slaves, so we suck" type of spot.
There have been slaves since the Ancient Egyptian days and almost every race/culture has experienced it.

I am not saying it is good or right. Not at all.

What I AM saying is this country is sometimes unjustly accused of being the main slavery country in this world's history and it isn't.

Furthermore, I have zero control of anyone from previous generations and so I shouldn't be punished or tossed into the same conversation. (I/Me is not literal)

In fact, we are the FIRST country to actively oppose and put laws in place stating slavery is illegal.

Did it make everything okay? Hello no... but this country has done more than any other in trying to rectify its mistakes and to end slavery here and across the globe. Shit doesn't change overnight as everyone knows. Things take time and Kaperprick is acting as if nothing has improved and nobody is doing anything. As a matter of fact, in one interview he sounded as if he thinks the average american doesn't know there even is a race problem.

Pretty ridiculous.

In the end it really comes down to this and i'm not religious, but if following the bible or god makes you a better person then I am all for it. but it comes down to this.
Treat others as you would like to be treated. Do not to others of which you would not do to yourself.
Simple.
If everyone lived by this standard this world would be a much happier peaceful place.

 

What about Australian and New Guinea provinces though? I thought they had slavery into the 1900's? I could be wrong on that. Either way I think my point is pretty valid, that its been throughout hidstory and we are not the only country who has had issues.

 

80+ million natives didn't just die for this country.... they died for Canada and Mexico and Guatemala and Brazil and Argentina and Chile and Peru and I can go on and on.

You are so consumed with your hatred, you'll believe anything to justify it.

 

I disagree that the all lives matter croud wants to end the status quo. How many survivors (and their families) do we tell to get over the holocaust? That's right. Not one. Yet we're told everyday to get over slavery, Jim Crow, mass incarceration, and killing of unarmed blacks. Every day we're told this. Not only did America commit slavery she also committed genocide. Yet Hitler still sucks and Germans still has that as a stain on their past but America

"should not be held to this.... "we owned slaves, so we suck" type of spot."

Must be nice....

 

Minimizer... Newsflash:

Being pro black doesn't mean you're anti white.

But you can continue to paint whatever picture you want about me. IDGAF what you think about me. You don't know me.

 

Y'all don't even know that slavery is still legal... Mass incarceration is the new slavery. Take 3 minutes of your time and try to gain perspective.

 

There are still people alive TODAY who endured the Holocaust.

Do you know anyone who was a slave? Do you know anyone who owned slaves? For you to compare something that happened 150+ years ago to something that happened so recently that there are STILL SURVIVORS is absurd and extremely callous.

 

All you do is rant about white people. I probably know you better than most people that see you face to face on a daily basis because you say what you're actually thinking on here. You say the things that you would never say to my face if you just met me.

You clearly have some deep seeded hatred towards white people because of what has happened to you in your lifetime, and I guess that's understandable, but for you to constantly deny that you have those feelings is what annoys me. You rant and you rail against white people and white privilege, but you don't see any problem with that. And the fact that you DON'T see a problem with that is the very reason why it's a problem.

 

Disconnected from reality...

My mother was born in 55'. My oldest aunt was born 49'.

Jim Crow ended in 65'...

WELL AFTER The Holocaust...

My mother still remembers the dogs, firehoses, beatings, unlawful imprisonment, and segregation. We've only had "equality" since then...

 

Fuck SlyPokerDog. No edit needed.

 

The Chinese were the first to actually abolish slavery for a period of time...221 bc to 206 bc....The Pope abolished the holding of Christian slaves in the 12th century....the French were the first European nation to grant total equality to former African slaves and allow them to vote and have all the rights of Caucasian French people

 

And there is NEVER a time when I don't say exactly what I think. I don't sugarcoat shit for anyone. Get your mind right on that one.

 

So you're going to compare segregation and racism with the Holocaust? I'm pretty sure everyone would agree that the way this country treated black people was horrible and shameful, but you're SERIOUSLY going to compare those things to the systemic rounding up of Jews over a span of less than ten years and the gassing/mass murder of entire families? The Nazis murdered 11 million people in the span of only a few years in some of the worst ways imaginable. They wiped out essentially 2/3 of the Jews in Europe.

Nobody is asking you to get over racism. I think people would agree that racism still exists, but for you to keep bringing up the Holocaust is just....... wow....... come on man.

 

That was our holocaust. You've just showed your hand...

This is literally the last time you and I discuss this.