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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    You don't think we see that? The other mods and I have many conversations about this. It gives us fucking headaches. Its a pain in the ass. We look at posts, we look at the rules, we go by the rules. We don't want to be sticklers. We want people to express their opinions. We also want them to act like fucking adults.
     
  2. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Simple solution. Don't read the political threads then. You don't get to control what is and isn't discussed in this forum cippy. It's like someone that hates steak but continually goes to a steak restaurant and ordering steak.
     
  3. Cippy91

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    Who said I wanted to control what wasn’t talked about? I don’t give a shit what is talked about, but given my history with you, I know that you are one of the gray area types that always has an issue with me. Have fun with that.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    No I don’t think you do, if you did you would act faster as opposed to sit and say “dviss isn’t doing anything wrong”. To be honest I don’t even know who was in charge of giving you mod because you seem to be the most bias going into your position. You sit and like people’s comments against others. Yeah not bias at all. Instead of doing something as mod, you like the comments of your “friends” even when they are doing that childish gray area shit. You can’t convince me otherwise. I have these conversations with posters behind the scenes as well. They don’t speak up. I do. I always have. I’m not the only one with these thoughts. But hey it is what it is. There is a reason it has become an echo chamber. Nobody likes dealing with the bullshit that never gets fixed so people like me stopped posting in the OT. As I like to call it, the circle jerk of the whole forum. That’s all it is. No actual conversation is taking place.
     
  5. BrianFromWA

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    Ah, a Dart Champion, I see...
     
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  7. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Just an example of a conversation that happens behind the scenes. All of the mods try to be as fair as possible and when they aren't sure they reach out to the biggest asshole in the forum (psst...that's me.)

    It will never be perfect but that isn't because of a lack of trying.

    One of the biggest things Denny and Ed O impressed upon me when I joined the staff was when it comes to moderating less is best.

    That's why I'm having this discussion with you and trying to explain things.

    We try to keep it simple, no personal insults. I look at adding additional rules like no grey areas or no baiting as being very difficult to interpret and enforce fairly.

    That doesn't mean that we won't look at adding more rules or refining the personal insult rule but it needs to be very black and white.

    As I've said before, if I read something along the lines of, "you are a <insert something mean or insulting here> that is a personal insult and I can explain that to others on staff. That's why I'm resistant to label something like, "I'm in your head" as being a personal insult. Lot's of people can be "in your head" that doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad thing. Loved ones can be in your head.

    Anyway, I appreciate these conversations and how the forum is moderated. I do think and care about your concerns and complaints.

    To borrow from a certain Blazer,

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    (and no, I'm not calling you Jennifer or a girl unless you would like to be called Jennifer or a girl.)
     
  8. CupWizier

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    "If it was me, I wouldn’t want politics on here at all."

    Sure reads like a guy that wants to control what is discussed. As for the rest of your whining, those who live in glass houses should avoid throwing rocks as you are one of the more confrontational posters I have seen in this forum and typically likes to play the victim when others lay it out for you. It seems you are the one that has a lot of issues with others so don't try and turn this on me as you seldom take responsibility for your own actions.
     
  9. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    how is this the first time I'm seeing that tweet?!
     
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  11. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    You can be staff and still have personal opinions. You mean you're saying if you were a mod you would no longer have any opinions on subjects? Or you couldn't edit or delete a personal insult if you were friends with the person who wrote it and even if you agreed with the rest of their post? I think you could do that.

    And I made a thread in the main forum where people voted on whether or not to make Chris a mod.
     
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  12. SlyPokerDog

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    There are even t-shirts of it, lol.

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    CJ has has some very well thought out, brilliant tweets, but that one is up and away the best. If he doesn't have those words tattooed on himself somewhere, I'll do it.
     
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    You know I'm going to choose to respond because @Cippy91 seems to be in a mood which you can have a discussion with him right now.

    Before you decided to group me in with the in your words... 'Circle jerk posters who constantly attack you for no reason'.(which is bullshit btw, as when you said that to @BonesJones that was the first time I spoke to you in weeks. As I was avoiding the OT section @ the time.)
    I never had you on ignore, never really had an issue with your posts outside of your delivery.(I have issues with @dviss1 delivery at times as well.)
    There are better ways to deliver your post than what every poster decides to do at times.

    I even told you Cippy a long, long time ago(around the time you first joined) that you needed to learn how to play the game on this forum.
    You agreed with me, but said you didn't think you'd be able to.
    My thought which I never posted was. 'Well if you don't learn how to play a game on this forum you're going to struggle here. Not to mention it's zero different than the games society forces adults to play in the real world.'

    This whole discussion comes back to you needing to learn how to play the game still.
    The rules of this forum are very simple. I can count on one hand how many times a moderator has modded my posts.
    Posters who choose to push the boundaries, choose to accept the possibility their posts may have a moderator take action against their post.



    As far as when @dviss1 said the thing about not wanting to attend a forum event with you due to gun ownership.
    He prolly shouldn't have said that, and just kept it to himself. But that's not a personal insult so....
    But iirc, you weren't innocent in that discussion @Cippy91
     
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  15. Cippy91

    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    Right but see how the whole concern in the message is how if dviss will think ignore it’s racist. As if it all revolves around his feelings. Don’t know about you but I haven’t encountered a racist person on this forum for how ever many years I have been here. Yet dviss claims there are racists here and others have. I haven’t seen it. So I don’t know. I don’t appreciate the assumptions in the past of me being racist. No mod defended that despite there being zero evidence of it. Or anytime me being from Damascus was used as some form of insult to me. Time after time of me offering an opinion and the same people jumping all over honestly led to me saying fuck the OT section. Sometimes I’m just over the whole forum. I haven’t been posting in the game sections a whole lot though I watch every game. Makes people feel unwelcome and like the years I have been here just doesn’t matter because well I’m just viewed unfairly by the same people on the forum so why the fuck should I care to sit and put time into it?

    Side note, honestly if you want a faster way of communicating open up a mod discord. Always open. Quick. All the mods can chat in one area as opposed to the clunky and outdated messaging system here and I’m not trying to shit on it but discoed is way faster and easier.
     
  16. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    And it was nearly unanimous
     
  17. Cippy91

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    Oh the typical “you like to play victim” line. Lol okay. Yeah that’s me. I just want to control what’s being discussed like my idol Donald trump. Because you know, I live in Damascus in my right wing bubble. YEE HAW!!!

    Is that what you wanted? God damn the people in this section...
     
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    Boring. Let me know when there's a meltdown. I will be here with a :$hobbs$: big laugh. :biglaugh:
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    I would have opinions certainly, but when you’re a mod you kind of have a duty to look at shit more evenly. So even if you wanted to go off in one way, you kinda gotta play mediator because of you don’t, it sets a precedent and gives the people of the forum a certain feel that a bias exists. You know, like what’s happening now.
     
  20. H.C.

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    I made the decision like in the 2016 election to not vote for the main candidate.
    :P
     
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