Anyone know why Muslims hate being photographed?

Yeah, I get that. What does that have to do with you stating that there are only a few thousand Muslims that support terrorism, when surveys show that half of Indonesian Muslims support OBL, and YOU say 19% of Palestinians support Hamas?

So, you were trying to say that Americans support terrorism at about the same rate is Muslims. It sounds like you don't really believe that, based on what you just wrote. Again, what does that have to do with you saying there are only a few thousand Muslims that support terrorism?

My only high ground is that there is data that contradicts your claim that there are only a few thousand Muslim that support terrorism. Why don't you either provide some backup for that position, or back off of it?

And that has exactly what to do with terrorism, and how many Muslims support it?

Ok, which religious group supported those activities.

Yeah, that's JUST like blowing up a bunch of women and children.

I don't really care if you support violence or not. The polls show that a LOT of Muslims support OBL (and his murdering tactics). Millions. You say there are only thousands. I think that's just disingenuous, and I can't fathom what your motive for that is.

Maybe if you would just answer some of my questions above, or even if you would just provide some evidence that there are only a few thousands that support terrorism, we could move on. If not, this will have to wait a while. I've got work to do and a busy weekend.

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So I started browsing the old BBF OT section and ran across some pretty insightful comments.

Anyone wanna take a guess at who said those things?

nah, I'll just ruin the suspense now. It was maxiep. wtf?

http://www.basketballforum.com/portland-off-topic-forum/409101-christmas-august.html

 

YEAH BABY. Every stinking one of them wants to kill Latino babies. And Amurica condones killing them all. How come there's no bomb going off in the lower pic?

That's fucking pathetic.

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We obviously read different textbooks. You tell me another country that has shed so much blood and then completely withdrawn after their victories.

Just because it wasn't high school didn't mean you didn't swallow your opinion whole and unquestioningly. Your position throughout this thread reeks of ivory tower graduate school bullshit. You go ahead and take the road of moral equivalency; I'll actually make a value-based stand.

If the majority of the Muslim world condemned the aims and ends of terrorism, we would hear little else. Instead, there are no large scale protests, no turning in of terrorist leaders, etc. Instead we hear these people being called "martyrs" and "great leaders".

And like it or not, the "innocent victims" are also to blame by not speaking out against evil. They're no different than the Germans that tolerated Nazism. They may have complained about it in the privacy of their homes, but really they embraced the idea of a resurgent Germany. It's no different with the vast majority of Muslims from Western Africa to the Indian Subcontinent.

 

Do you even know what Islamophobia means, or do you just pull the matching PC pablum from some playbook?

 

Ah, Denny. So simple. So trite. Yep. The terrorism perpetrated against Muslims by Muslims has no aim, no goal. All Muslims are the same.

Genius.

 

And McVeigh was decried as a monster for what he did by EVERYONE. That's the difference. Perhaps, one day, you'll catch up to where the rest of us are.

 

Post-colonialist domination is a thing.

Nice anti-intellectualism you've got there. Glad to know your values are fit for everyone else. If that's the alternative, I'll take my "ivory tower" any day.

Whoa. Agree to disagree. You should listen to yourself from 2008.

 

I know it must be strange to you to have someone gather more data, more evidence, and change his or her mind. Hell, I used to be a Democrat.

 

Yay bumper stickers!

Nah. It's just the schools I attended possess real intellectuals. The kind of people that challenge the status quo, the conventional wisdom. We resist indoctrination. We don't take the easy road of moral equivalence. We make judgments.

Assimilating new data with an open mind and coming to a different conclusion is a wonderful thing. You should try it sometime.

 

Denny, for a man that won't read about the subject, you sure are an opinionated sucker.

Nearly all terrorist activity in the world today is occurring under the findings of one Fatwa or another.

A fatwā (Arabic: فتوى‎; plural fatāwā Arabic: فتاوى‎) in the Islamic faith is the technical term for the legal judgment or learned interpretation that a qualified jurist or mufti can give on issues pertaining to the Islamic law.[


That is a concept unique to the Islamic religion. There may be close to 2 billion followers of this religion and only some are heeding the call of the Jihad called for in the Fatwas, but enough do, and that is the problem.

You don't find warriors going into battle these days on behalf of the Pope calling out some righteous cause. It doesn't happen by the leadership of any other religion, Buddhist, Hindu, or the Mormons. It is only done today
by learned leaders and followers of the Islamic religion.

Now, I don't think that has squat to do with OKC bombings or enforcing the boarder laws of the US.

As a man that apparently wishes to run a credible website, I would think you would read more and postulate less with irrelevant statistics.

 

You didn't used to be such a condescending dickhole.

I'll rephrase. Given the dominating economic policies of the west, it's difficult for many people around the world to hold the opinion that America simply wants people to live in peace and prosperity.

Wow. And you're accusing me of being in an ivory tower? This reeks of bitter old man who the world is leaving behind, clinging to your alma mater where the "real" intellectuals were. So much wank.

Just so long it's the conclusion you have also come to, because you are morally superior and I am not a "real" intellectual. Just so we've got this straight.

 

When we do Nuke em, and I think it may come to that, it will be right after the few fuck it up for the many, by bringing us a nuke in a sack.

The pussy leadership we have lacks the understanding, the knowledge and the will to get to the root of the problem. That could prove to be disastrous
for us and them. We as a people need to hold our leadership to be accountable for the task at hand.