Anyone know why Muslims hate being photographed?

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Better nuke the white people, too. McVeigh with a nuke is your scenario.
     
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    McVeigh should have spent some time on the water board before being snuffed out.
    No nuke needed.

    What is it with this sore on your ass about white people? Seems like a heavy load man.
     
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    Waterboard after using the nuke is too late.

    I have no beef with white people or any people at all. That's the point.

    Individuals? Like McVeigh, sure.
     
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    Not even gingers?
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    Certainly no broad brush.
     
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    Why do you hate brush broads?
     
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    Someone wants to teach English to brush broads.
     
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    Can't say as I blame 'em...
     
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    OK, and linked data that showed that 50% of Indonesian Muslims support a terrorist. Again, could you perhaps show SOMETHING to back up your absurd claim that there are a few thousand Muslims that support terrorism?

    Posting random pics of people that you don't agree with doesn't do anything to bolster you silly claim.

    Are you really saying that people that want illegal immigrant to leave, instead of giving amnesty, are terroists?

    Go Blazers
     
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    I don't like it because it doesn't have a thing to do with the topic we were discussing. Let me refresh your memory....you were making the case that there are only a few thousand Muslims that support terrorism. You've said that 19% of Palestinians alone support Hamas. Wtf?

    Go Blazers
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    You simply have a flaw in your logic. A is a terrorist. B supports A. B supports terrorism. Not true.

    Edit: A offers free food. B is hungry.
     
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    Just to get back on track with the thread question, I'm not Muslim and I hate being photographed. My grandmother was half Lakota Sioux and she used to tell me the Lakota thought having your photo taken was like having your soul stolen. Sort of a fear of ghosts scenario.
     
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    Also like to point out that the American revolution was carried out by folks the British called terrorists. So was the French revolution and we could go on about it but current affairs drive the stereotypes. The IRA was the bad guy in the news when I was young and those were Catholic Irish kids. Why single out a subculture and lump them all into one boogey man definition? Mao's red guard had an average age of about 10 and they terrorized all the capitalists in China. Bloody Run Creek in the Sierra Mts during the gold rush the miners slaughtered 30,000 Chinese laborers on payday instead of paying them after they built all the flumes for the water cannons. In the words of Bukowski...people are not good to one another.
     
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    Oldguy, you're viewing this as a black and white issue. I'm not going to do the research for you, but here are a few factors that may make it a little more complicated (because it's, you know, real life).

    1. Groups like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Brotherhood have military wings that do what we would call terrorism. Those groups also are community organizers (I knew Obama was involved somehow! jk). Like Denny said, people are hungry and they offer food. The Brotherhood control large parts of Egypt, but not through strong arm tactics but because they are a sort of a local government to the poor, conservative and religious areas in upper Egypt. Hezbollah run entire neighborhoods in Lebanon that don't get along with the poly-religious government in Beirut. Hamas is more complicated because it's central to the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and good luck talking sense to either side of that kerfuffle. Either way, these organizations look much more like government than Al-Qaeda. There are large differences. Because people support Hamas or Hezbollah doesn't mean they're supporting terrorism, especially not from their point of view.

    2. Public opinion polling in the Middle East and North Africa (I won't mention Indonesia or Bangladesh because I know nothing about them) is super duper problematic. What constitutes an opinion is complex shit; boiling it down via the answer to predetermined questions is problematic enough. But people in the Middle East and North Africa have some markedly different ways of coming to conclusions that we in the West do. So, I would argue that polling is inherently flawed when applied to the Middle Eastern mindset. For example, in my experience, people are likely to give you a snap answer to a question, but then when you sit down for some coffee, talk it out for a while, they will end up actually saying the opposite (which you never ever point out so they can save face). Maybe someone will say they hate America, but if you talk to them about it, they will clarify that they hate American policies (understandable) and not their values or population. In fact, the majority I talked to wanted to go to America because of, you know, freedom.

    3. Another thing is education. People may not know what Al-Qaeda actually is. People may not know who Osama bin Laden really was. I came across so many variations. A lot of people think it was all made up by the worldwide Jew controlled media. A lot of people think that they're real and Osama is awesome because he rallies against Western imperialism, but terrorism is wrong. Many people think he was real but don't even think he was responsible for 9/11.

    Many of us in the West take our knowledge base as granted for the rest of the world. In a region where many people still can't read or write, it's crazy to think that our public opinion polls have the same amount of reliability then they do here.
     
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    Interesting speech you give Hoo but what the hell is your point?
     
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    that these issues are more complicated than public opinion polls (or cherry picked verses from the Qur'an in your case) can demonstrate
     
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    Maybe because many of us in the West can only read or write in english? I think you'll find the Arabic world to be fairly literate in their native tongues. Then there are the Serbs and Bosnians who were definitely literate. Our knowledge of world affairs and subcultures is based on the info printed in the english speaking press for the most part. Interesting post though, give you credit for that.
     

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