Anyone watching the GOP debate?

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  1. maxiep

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    IMO, Romney won the debate. Perry got knocked around a little and needs to bone up on foreign policy. Bachmann toned down her act, but is losing traction to Perry. I don't think Brian Williams or the guy from Politico could wrap their heads around Paul's ideas. Cain didn't impress. Santorum seemed knowledgeable, but didn't have much of a chance to mix it up. Huntsman was better, but too little, too late. Gingrich was great, calling a spade a spade, but it's clear that he's not expecting to win anything.
     
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  3. julius

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    For the most part I agree; though not about newt. I think paul needs to explain his ideas in longer sound bites, but those don't relate well in debate format.
     
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    What I meant about Ron Paul was that Inside-The-Beltway folks like Brian Williams just can't conceive of the ideas that Ron Paul proposes, like auto companies being responsible for their own safety and mileage standards, or airlines being responsible for their own security and air traffic control. In their minds, the Federal Government must occupy a central part of American life.
     
  5. julius

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    I don't trust the car companies to do that though. Even with what has been done (which was only done because they had too and not because they wanted to) I don't they have the incentive to do it
     
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    exactly. Big business would rather stonewall and face lawsuits vs joe average nobodies in our courts then have their feet held to the fire by an agency requiring higher standards. They can deal with some collateral damage settlements if they're making $$$ hand over fist with inferior products.

    I'd rather pay for the engineered railing at the top of the viewpoint then forego that and have the individual(s) pay for the ambulance ride

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  7. Natebishop3

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    Did Bachmann ever REALLY have a shot at the nomination? If she did, god help that party.
     
  8. maxiep

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    I would argue that Michele Bachmann is no further to the right than our current President was to the left when he won his party's nomination.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why isn't it a Ponzi Scheme?

    The people who contributed all their lives to it had their funds fraudulently taken from the Trust Fund and spent on tea and circuses. Now the thing is running a deficit and it's got tens of $Trillions in unfunded liabilities going forward.
     
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    Huntsman was the concensus winner on C-SPAN this morning (judging by what the callers were saying).

    Ron Paul is the winner according to this unscientific poll on MSNBC's site (host of the debate):

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_new...n-the-republican-debate-at-the-reagan-library

    Total of 127,374 votes - click on the "Display Comments" bar below to sort comments

    Ron Paul 50%(63,744 votes)
    Mitt Romney 17.3%(21,987 votes)
    Rick Perry 14.4%(18,347 votes)
    Jon Huntsman 6.9%(8,784 votes)
    Newt Gingrich 4.8%(6,075 votes)
    Herman Cain 3.3%(4,264 votes)
    Michele Bachmann 2.2%(2,835 votes)
    Rick Santorum 1.1%(1,338 votes)
     
  11. ABM

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    I never said it wasn't. In fact, I agree with him in (present) theory.
     
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    I was using your post to raise a point that occurred in the debate.

    MSNBC, naturally, has been calling it some sort of gaffe. I think it's the sorry and direct truth. It just happens that SS is the 3rd rail of politics.

    As a side note, I noticed today that Norah O'Donnell is now working at CBS News, having left NBC/MSNBC. That leaves NBC with one less actual news person. MSNBC doesn't have any news anymore.

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    Chris Matthews turns my stomach........literally.
     
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    Literally? Which direction does he turn it?

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    Generally speaking, towards the commode.
     
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    Are you saying SS is literally a Ponzi Scheme or like a Ponzi Scheme in some regards? Or are we using it as simile?
     
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    Would they be "making $$$ hand over fist with inferior products"? Especially if those inferior products were, or rumored to be, unsafe?
     
  18. bluefrog

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    I was looking at the WSJ Poll. The options for their poll were Bachmann, Perry, Romney and Someone else. Why are they ignoring the other 5 candidates? Paul is widely being ignored by most media outlets.
     
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    the thing is, WHY would they be rumored to be unsafe?

    because of the regulations the government put into action...

    It's basically like an alcoholic saying they can stop drinking (after going through treatment) and doesn't need any treatment help anymore. Because they know whats best for them.

    Car companies were slow to increasing MPG in cars, because the public didn't care/know about the reasons why we need to have higher MPG. They were slow to putting in seat belts, air bags, gas tanks that didn't go boom when you backed into them (see: Mustang/Pinto), or crumple zones (see: pretty much all cars before the 80's).

    The only reason why they're doing it now is because they've had to. And even though they'd be better off continuing the safety regulations they have to do, they wouldn't have had to do it if it weren't for these evil regulations.
     
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    Dan Savage is effective. I see "Santorum" and I feel revulsion followed by quick realization that they're talking about the political man and not the new definition.
     

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