Anyone watching the GOP debate?

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  1. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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    Do NOT google "Santorum" while at work. I think it's actually written into the internet usage policy where I work.
     
  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Do you trust Underwriters Laboratories? Consumer Reports? Don't you think that a private company could manage to do the work of the NHTSA? Private companies that are faced with bankruptcy and or liquidation if they're wrong have more to lose than a faceless government bureaucracy. I would argue that the Federal Government is more open to corruption than a private company.
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Nader made his name from his book "unsafe at any speed.". Yet the cars people die in the most are corvettes and cameros and firebirds.

    Go figure
     
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I take with a grain of salt any "survey" done with people calling in or clicking on a link. Paul has shown especially that he has a small, but active, base.
     
  5. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    link?

    the only link I could find was this one. http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4204.pdf

    And no where is Corvette, Camaro or Firebirds on them.

    Yes, the big three had changed some of the things they knew where wrong, but not as much as they did once it became regulation.
     
  6. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yeah, maybe because you don't see a lot of Corvairs on the highway these days?
    Not too many people get killed in 1939 Packards, either.

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  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    well, the last Corvair was made 42 years ago. That might have something to do with why you don't see many of them on the highway. But they actually weren't any less safe then any of the other POS's that were around in the 60's.
     
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    You're a grown-ass man (I think). If you don't like the company or its products, don't buy their products.
     
  9. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    so basically we should allow for whatever to happen?

    You're a grown ass man (I think), tune into sanity FM. Companies care about making money, and if it weren't for standards that they have to meet, they would screw you every which way but loose.

    What about the stuff they could do and you don't know about it? who is going to the be watch dog, and how easy would it be to have the companies bury those watch dogs?

    say GM dumps their excess paint into the ground because it's cheaper to do it? But no one knows..

    or Ford goes with cheap brakes that they know aren't as nice? But no one knows..

    or maybe Chrysler uses inferior air bags because they can..but no one knows?

    you are seriously naive if you think they wouldn't try to go cheap if they didn't have to meet certain standards. Do you honestly think they'd be building fuel efficient cars if they didn't have to?
     
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    There are many, many, many companies that create a high quality products without stipulations and government regulations that mandate they do so. I know it is fun to spew scare tactics about the big-bad corporations, but the fact is that there is incentive to create quality products without government regulations.

    Are you seriously so naive to think the only reason quality products are available is because the government has mandated as such?
     
  11. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Good points.

    Plus if you want to blame crappy products on anyone, look towards the unions. I worked in a few union shops and quickly realized how those operations were effectively set-up to foster complacency as a whole.
     
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  12. julius

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    yeah, because car companies were on the path to making cars save in the 60's..
     
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    Did somebody force you to buy a car?
     
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    Right. If you don't like unsafe cars, then just don't drive! It's simple.

    barfo
     
  15. julius

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    cars aren't the only forms of transportation that are impacted by regulations.
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    Why drive when there's that horse you rode in on?
     
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    Way to dodge the question.
     
  18. blazerboy30

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    Right. Make the assumption that no safe, quality cars would be built if the government wasn't there to wipe your ass and hold your hand! It's simple.
     
  19. julius

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    I tend to dodge stupid questions.

    What does it matter if someone 'forced' me to buy a car? Does that somehow bear any weight on the issue?

    It doesn't prove that they'd do whats best for the safety of people who buy cars. It's just a weird way of saying you don't HAVE to buy a car as if that's a valid point.

    Well, I guess I don't HAVE to breath clean air, or use paint without lead in it, or have my insulation contain asbestos. After all, no one is forcing me to breath clean air, not suffer from brain damage or get lesions on my lungs.
     
  20. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Right, because they have a history of making safe quality cars before they were told to (or knew how to, or knew that they should).
     

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