Apple loves privacy!

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  1. andalusian

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    No, as my message clearly states, maybe you should give me the credit and read everything I say:

     
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    CarPlay is an integration with a car. Not something server based.

    Maybe you should read the whole press release.
     
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    "we don't read your email or your messages" - It still reads your messages contacts and texts. It might not do it on the server - I do not know, Apple did not tell us, but clearly they do read it somewhere...

    But the specific issue that Mag had with me is with Google sharing info with external processors - which Apple admits to doing as well, so I am not sure why it is a problem when Google does it but not a problem when Apple does it - and I am not sure why it makes me someone who calls Cook a liar when their own web site tells us they share personal information with external processors.
     
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    Then using the "they've done it longer so they are better" should be discounted right?
     
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    But this is a semantic argument. Does Google use outside processors for their server platform? The answer is yes.
     
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    The software is on your phone or in the car, not on their servers in the cloud.

    I think you just go this one wrong.
     
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    I didn't read Google's terms of service to read that they only hand off data for specific processing. They hand it off to affiliates for any reason. Or to 3rd parties for processing (e.g. payments).

    I think the topic is correct. Google publicly says, "If you want to keep something secret, do not share it with us." Apple says, "we don't share with 3rd parties."

    Apple does not share your documents, spreadsheets, emails, and so on, that are stored in iCloud. What they might share is your credit card information with visa so they can bill you for the music files you just bought.

    EDIT: Google's CEO, Eric Schmidt, declared: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines—including Google—do retain this information for some time and it's important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot Act and it is possible that all that information could be made available to the authorities."

    In its 2007 Consultation Report, Privacy International ranked Google as "Hostile to Privacy", its lowest rating on their report, making Google the only company in the list to receive that ranking.

    At the Techonomy conference in 2010, Eric Schmidt predicted that "true transparency and no anonymity" is the way forward for the internet: "In a world of asynchronous threats it is too dangerous for there not to be some way to identify you. We need a [verified] name service for people. Governments will demand it." He also said that "If I look at enough of your messaging and your location, and use artificial intelligence, we can predict where you are going to go. Show us 14 photos of yourself and we can identify who you are. You think you don't have 14 photos of yourself on the internet? You've got Facebook photos!"
     
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    BTW, I just installed ios8 on my iPhone and iPad. During the installation, it had me request an iCloud keychain key from an existing device. That device being my desktop. Sure looks like it was a peer-to-peer copy of something like a private key.
     
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    Got nothing to hide? How about "government doesn't have right to violate my rights"
     
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    If you're a sicko and into kiddy porn you should use Apple because you will never get caught!
     
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    Okay so everybody loses their rights because of a child porn violator?

    You sound like a guy wanting to ban guns because of some school shooting
     
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    Well, as long as you do everything on your phone!
     
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    Ignoring how they encrypt your cloud again?
     
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    It...was...a...joke...
     
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    No way?! I thought you were into child porn
     
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    Dude.
     
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    It. Was. A. Joke!
     
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    article says google had it for 3 years, but as an option, not default setting. So apple didn't have it first.
     

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