This dude will probably turn out like a Joe Pryzbilla or a Michael Bradley type and that's pretty BORRRRRRING.
Remember who was ahead of JO? He was also a high school player and wasn't expected to come and produce right away, and his team didn't have a huge hole at center. I think that's the whole point you're missing, Araujo isn't supposed to take 4 years to develop, he'll be 28 by then
i think araujo could become a solid player later on in his career, but he dfinately won't help the raptors this season...just imagine if we had iggy vince and skip on the break ...i don't think tis fair to call him a bust yet, give him till mid season next year like Derfz had said... u never know what if he does turn into a brad miller type player when he turns 28...with bosh in 4 years.. just try and look on the positive side
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Remember who was ahead of JO? He was also a high school player and wasn't expected to come and produce right away, and his team didn't have a huge hole at center. I think that's the whole point you're missing, Araujo isn't supposed to take 4 years to develop, he'll be 28 by then</div> 28 and out of the league. thats cool cause he would be a multi-millionaire and would be spending his time flashing his bling bling to all the bootylicious babes on those Brazilian beaches.
I think that Rafael Araujo was the raptors biggest wasted pick ever, maybe even a worse pick by the raptors than Michael Bradley. We could've gotten someone proven for our pick like Dalembert or someone off a team like Chicago, Philly or maybe even Charlotte after the expansion. We could've had Jahidi White if the cap worked out and thats definitely an upgrade over Araujo. He was a wasted pick.
I think that as of now he appears a bust, but I will give him a full season to prove himself before I label him completely though as of now I agree with every thing stated by og15. There where many good players they passed up to take him, and I think they will suffer for it all year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">All I'm going to say is I think the Raptors could have drafted a better player than Araujo.</div> lol I like that reply
its 15 games....he'll be ok. give him a break. dont call him a bust yet. Even if he is 28 by the time he's a brad miller...it'll be handy to have. Big men are rare, and they'll continue to be rare.
With the Raptors luck regarding first round picks, if Araujo turns out to be a Brad Miller at 28, he won't be playing for the Raptors. Seriously, assuming he improves, do u think this guy from sunny Brazil is gonna sign another contract and spend another 5+ years in cold and snowy T-dot? If he does sign, will he pull an Antonio Davis or Vince Carter and demand to be traded? Or will he go the likes of high profile first rounders - Damon Stoudamire and Tracy Mcgrady, and bolt when he becomes a free agent? I'm a big raptors fan, followed them since day one, but you'd have a hard time convincing me that the players don't consider the city an NBA wasteland.
I don't know you guys sound like this guy is terrible. He came to our school in Glendale,CA and my friends said he shot like 30 3's in a row which is I think like 2-3 feet in from the 3 point line. I think he's good and he just needs time to develop. Who cares if hes 24... maybe he started playing ball late or something. As a sixer fan I would rather have Aruajo then Iggy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting zEx69:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know you guys sound like this guy is terrible. He came to our school in Glendale,CA and my friends said he shot like 30 3's in a row which is I think like 2-3 feet in from the 3 point line. I think he's good and he just needs time to develop. Who cares if hes 24... maybe he started playing ball late or something. As a sixer fan I would rather have Aruajo then Iggy.</div> Yes the thing is that a lot of players are sick compared to us, but compared to other NBA players him hitting 30 highschool three's in a row isn't going to do anything.... Seems more like your opinion is on personal bias because you've establish sort of a personal relationship with the guy in terms of getting to know him more than just being another basketball player. Hey, if you were the Sixers GM, and I the Raptors, I'd be on the phone with you doing that trade :thumbsup: This is not a Araujo is a bust thread or Araujo sucks thread, this is a if Araujo isn't helping us right away, their's other players we could've gotten who would very likely be better than him in the future and weren't expected to help right away either, so in that sense what justifies us picking Araujo?
Its barely 15 games into the season and a rookie is getting bashed because of disgruntled fans, quite sad. It was a no-brainer that all of us here knew quite well he would take at least a year to develop. Yes Rob Babcock did say that he would be an immediate impact but everyone should have known better. Do I think this was a good pick? No, but the only suitable person that would fit our team (other than taking the best available) was Araujo or Jameer Nelson, who would have or could have been a waste as well because Skip has been great this season. Theres a small argument that could coincide with the drafting of Araujo, is that Iguodala could have been here instead. The thing is we had the option to re-sign Mo Pete instead of drafting Iguodala. Even if Mo Pete had left, and we drafted Iggy, he would only do as good of a job as Mo is doing now, which leaves this same situation at an equilibrium. Basically, since our depth at the SG and SF spots (at the time, assuming Vince and Jalen would be fine) drafting another player at that position would make almost no sense. I can easily tell you that I'm not happy with Araujo (and was completely suprised when his name was announced), but when you look at the situation we were in it didn't make much sense to draft Iguodala. Another argument is we could have drafted Swift or Biedrins, which again, I guarentee 90% of you would be complaining about that because technically, we would be in the same situation and because of the lack of patience (waiting for them to develop) among fans and they would be unhappy.
Impatient fans aren't we? I am a believer in drafting on talent and not position and I'll be the first one to say that I was in disbelief when his name was called. But as Franchise stated before, the two viable options at the #9 spot were Nelson and Iguodala. I think I'm a little more comfortable with a developing 7 footer weighing 265 then two players playing unwanted positions who would probably see the same amount of time Araujo is right now if they were acquired by Toronto. Mo Pete is playing well off the bench, so is Donyell Marshall, Palacio and Murray are playing beyond expectations. I just don't see how they would get time on this bench. It takes awhile for a big man to develope especially in the NBA. I am somewhat optimistic that Araujo can be somewhat serviceable next season. I have seen a few (very few) glimpses of what he can become if he got it all together. Only time will tell......
finally... i have backup.. lmao jp, but yea he does need a while to ''adjust to the speed of the nba'', give him at least a midseason to even bash araujo
We'll see... Also Iguodala is actually doing better than MoPete even considering his minutes, just doesn't take as many shot or three's as Mo does, but hits a higher percentage both ways. It would also have saved is money to have him over Mo, but as long as Araujo is something down the road I guess....I actually wouldn't have been dissapoited if we got Biedrins, I see more promise in him, especially defensively.
there are signs of hope if anyone saw the raptor game tonight...arrujo got to line for 4 free throws and made them all...i think he played 3 minutes...but he did seem a bit more confident with the ball and i actually wanted to see him on the floor a bit more, but his defence is still suspect, but its not time to give up on him yet...
yes i think the big thing with todays game is that he has gained more confidence. if he keeps building that he will not be a waste of a pick for sure
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting zEx69:</div><div class="quote_post">As a sixer fan I would rather have Aruajo then Iggy.</div>Wow, I thought ALL sixer fans are high on Iguodala. At least that makes me feel a little better that we picked Araujo instead. I don't blame Babcock for making the pick given our current situation, but I do blame him for giving us the impression that he could contribute right away. Personally, I'm on the ropes with this guy. I cringe everytime I see the way Iggy's been performing and comparing it to Araujo's play..... but I also see flashes where we get to see Araujo's potential that make me think we made the right decision. I guess we just have to wait this one out to see if Babcock made the right move.
