it was actually a statement made somewhat in jest, but hey if you want to get all bent about it, coolio.
At this point, I don't see any reason to trade Bayless short of getting a proven veteran winner in return. The guy is just so strong on the court and can get pretty much whereever he wants. Why trade that at this point?
No im kool..I respect different thoughts..my point was we all throw out different trade ideas that usually favor our team and not the trading team...my thought was it takes something to get something . And you were right when you siad we dont know...only KP and the other guy knows..
No this team cannot showcase. They just seem to try to ride a hot hand while it is rolling, that is what is getting them wins. It's Roy and a random player every night.
Richard Jefferson? This is like that Sesame Street feature "Which of these things is not like the others?" Sure, if Portland aims at a player like Butler, Bayless would be necessity to be dealt. Jefferson is not as good as Butler and is paid more. His value is much lower.
this was a post in jest, to get back at some who thought sergio was being showcased sunday but i think you hit the nail on the head. we don't need both PGs to be great, we just need one to be hot and roll with them.
so what about a gerald wallace? i'm sorry but i've cooled on the idea of a jefferson type player coming in. we have enough guys that give us his skill set with youth. if we can't pull a butler/wallace type than i hope we do nothing.
I'm so hesitant on giving up on Jerryd right now if we do trade him. He's really going to be a special backcourt mate for Brandon when he gets a little more experience. The game still seems to be going a little fast for him, but when he really gets comfortable and gets his jumper going.... man, he's going to be scary.
Agreed. I put him almost in the same tradeability (not a word, I know) level as the big 3. Not quite, but very close; unless we return a guaranteed starting PG under the age of 28, I don't think we can let him go.
In know there's been a lot of talk about an untradable big-3, but I personally would add Batum and Bayless to that group as a big 5. They are all such rare and unique talents that trading any one of them would leave a hole very difficult to fill.
Let me know what you think about this trade we get to keep Bayless! Orlando gets rid of Peitrus, who is repetitive with Lee emerging and the Magic intent on resigning Hedo who is a FA. Orlando also gets a PG in Blake to play out the year for them since they are missing Nelson and they get a plethora of frontcourt depth for the playoffs since their greatest complaint is a weak bench. Philly rounds out its team for the future while opening up Cap space. They get Sergio for the future PG and Petri as a wild card. They also recieve Frye to help down low and outside shooting from Reddick and Cook,they get Raef and clear out a lot of vets who have no future with the team. Portland does this because they get to condense tallent without giving up that much. Throw in a few draft pick if Orlando or Philly complains RealGM Trade ID #4999053 Portland Recieves Incoming Players Willie Green 6-2 SG Andre Miller 6-2 PG Mickael Pietrus 6-6 SG / SF Portland Trades: Outgoing Players Petteri Koponen No games yet played in 2008-2009 Sergio Rodriguez 6-3 PG Steve Blake 6-3 PG Channing Frye 6-11 PF Raef LaFrentz 6-11 PF 76ER's Recieve: Incoming Players Petteri Koponen Sergio Rodriguez 6-3 PG Channing Frye 6-11 PF Raef LaFrentz 6-11 PF J.J. Redick 6-5 SG Brian Cook 6-9 Orlando Magic Incoming Players Steve Blake 6-3 PG Kareem Rush 6-6 SG from Royal Ivey 6-4 PG Theo Ratliff 6-10 C Reggie Evans 6-8 PF
I put Batum a notch below Bayless, in that a starting SF under the age of 28 is not terribly tough to find, whereas a PG with the same criteria would be.
I'm weary on trading Koponen. I think he could be a much better player than either Blake or Hinrich. Koponen is reportedly at 6'5 now. That's an extremely rare attribute for a pure PG. He was also the second best player in Portland's Summer League.
how often do first round picks get traded in their rookie seasons? very rarely. so i wouldn't expect roy, aldridge, or the rookies to go anywhere.
nobody on this team is untradeable, it would take ALOT to pry Roy away and it would take a MAJOR deal for LA or Oden but that's it. if we can upgrade for a proven stud, anyone and everyone is available. to get value you have to give up value.
I think we're all underestimating the value of raef, channing and ike's expiring contracts. If KP has enough patience, an offer not involving Bayless will be sure to present itself before the deadline for a quality player. With the way the economy is running, teams are cost-cutting left and right.