Science Are the Covid Vaccines the Biggest Pharma Corporate Welfare Bailout in History?

This is not new and I don't see any reason why it can't go on endlessly as long as the debt doesn't grow larger proportionally than the GDP.

 

It's less than $15 billion to vaccinate the whole population. $15 billion to put out a $20 TRILLION fire is an INCREDIBLE value.

 

You can escape big pharma greed easily and move to Brasil, South Africa and India....they don't have any stinkin' vaccine laws! Choices damnit! Be the immune system ironman you believe you are! Take one for the team in the name of anarchy! I'll be fishing with my micro chip controlled American brain!

 

I get it. I went on a tangent and didn’t mean to make it sound like pharma was wholly responsible. But it’s part of the problem. When people getting vaccines, medicine, etc. is contingent on slipping it into a trillion dollar bill with countless hidden bailouts and good ol boy pocket lining there is a huge problem. This thing isn’t sustainable. I know people have been saying it for years but I truly think we’re reaching some sort of tipping point.

 

Yes, I can “easily” uproot my family and move thousands of miles away to a foreign country. So easy. It should be especially easy when I can’t fly, or even leave the country because of vaccine passports.

Why didn’t I think of that?

Why don’t cows just jump the fence and start a new life in San Francisco? It would be so easy.

 

Yes. It's incredibly important that we try to get dirty money out of politics, and make any other changes enabling and encouraging people to vote for the most capable people with the best ideas.

We'll need to amend the constitution and better educate our population.

Tribalism will only get in the way.

 

nah.....what's easy is to go spend 20 minutes and get vaccinated .... how you got to relating yourself to a fenced in cow wanting to live in San Francisco is beyond me though.

 

How did cows get in this. This is really kinky and makes me think you're getting your ideas from Sly.

 

You can’t pretend to know the long term effects of an experimental treatment that’s been out only a few months. I’m not willing to risk any side effects, even rare ones, to combat a disease I’ve already had that I have a .01 percent chance of dying from. Personal choice. I don’t see why everyone is so desperate to interject themselves into my personal affairs. I’m not trying to stop anyone from getting the shot, it’s a two way street. Nobody should ever need to know my medical history besides a doctor of my choice, not the government, and especially not some corporation. They can all eat a dick. The arm-twisting that’s going on is concerning and people are jumping on board like it’s normal. It’s not.

 

airborne virus sort of sets the table for breathing into other people's personal affairs.....and if you read my posts I 've said I support your right to deny vaccinations but warn you it's going to limit your options for PUBLIC health reasons....not private ones. You can be a host without dying from this shit....and you got the early version which is not nearly as dangerous as the mutated versions...which you can still get. This is a public forum...I only know you went out to a bar early in the pandemic and got covid early because you posted that here..... if the vaccine didn't kill off Chris Christie it's probably not going to kill you either....the fact that you got covid should be concerning you over long term effects more than the vaccine in my view....my grandaughter has asthma like conditions since she got it early and survived....she's only 20 years old. She didn't have breathing problems before. I'm not pretending to know shit....my heart doctor got the vaccine and he knows a bit about this stuff.....I asked him if my heart could take it and he assured me it wasn't a risk....being the guy who's saved my life when my heart failed....I'm going to trust his word over your skepticism

 

Yes, you certainly can. You can know exactly how the body deals with a protein. There is nothing chemically unique about this vaccine which we have not already used billions of times on billions of people for many many years. Only the arrangement of the proteins, which we can know with a high degree of certainly what kind of responses to expect, and over what timeframe.

That you do not understand how this works doesn't mean it's bad. There is a lot of stuff you interact with every day which causes far more harm to far more people than this vaccine possibly could. We know this because every person educated enough to know about it says so, with a very high degree of certainty. The only people who have questioned the consensus have been people with other motives and/or people who are unqualified.

 

Hey, hey, you want me to eat a dick, which you gotta admit is a pretty strange order, and I haven't even said a word about you not taking a vaccination that would be good for you and those around you.

 

Answer this, why on God's green earth does he want us to suck dick? I protest, in fact, I'm not doing it, not now, not ever.

 

This is simply not true. This treatment hasn’t been used in this way “billions of times”. That is a grossly over generalized statement. Yes, our bodies have dealt with spiked proteins from other wild viruses. But we’ve never been administered a treatment which re-trains our cells to produce these proteins. We don’t know at what rate or quantity each individual’s body will replicate these proteins, or how long they will continue to produce them. These are the same proteins which cause cell coagulation, blood clots and other serious conditions we’ve seen as a result of COVID, especially in the lungs and softer tissues. Training your body to deal with spiked proteins by producing them in-house is an interesting theory, but overproduction can cause serious problems and there are plenty of reputable medical doctors saying it could take years for your body to stockpile enough of these proteins to where it becomes a problem. It doesn’t mean the sky is falling and we’re all gonna die, but it is a legitimate medical concern to look at. People just don’t want to hear it though, they want their lives back. Can’t say I really blame them.

 

No. The spike protein does not cause any of the problems you described. Proteins of any kind do not cause any of the problems you described.

They are absorbed by the body like any other protein. Proteins don't reproduce or attack anything. They are just protein. A molecule.

If what you claim were true we would have increased rates of blood clots and strokes from mrna vaccines and we just don't have that.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...onal-patent-protections-for-covid-19-vaccines

We'll see if it ever actually happens. What is stopping the WHO from making this proposal, especially if there are hundreds of countries are in support?

 

Spike proteins cut the outer wall of a cell. It’s literally some virus’ mechanism for entering a cell to reproduce. Hence a corona virus being surrounded by them. Not all proteins are the same thing or serve the same purpose. And I know they don’t ‘reproduce’ in whatever fashion you think I implied. I don’t think they fuck and make baby proteins. The mRNA vaccine trains your cells to create these proteins on their own. The idea being that your cells will be able to recognize the ones around the actual COVID viruses that enter your body and be better prepared to quell them. The question some doctors and scientists were raising (how dare they) is at what rate and quantity these spike proteins are reproduced by the host cells, and are they shed at a fast enough rate to not have an influx of these spike proteins in the body? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question definitively, and it’s an important one.

 

It doesn't matter because the spike protein doesn't cause any damage. If it could, it would have already done so.