Rumor Are we finally stacking up some assets??

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    I think jake has more potential. He may not be quite the ball handler hood seems to be but he isnt a slouch either, but his size alone makes him much more versatile.
     
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    Well that is kind of my problem with the Hood acquisition without a followup move. If Hood turns out to have the same value as the other guys you mentioned then it means he played well the rest of this season which all but eliminates us from keeping him. If he doesn't play well we could probably keep him but would we even want to if he wasn't an answer to any of our problems? It's one of those situations where I don't see a way where it ends with Hood being a major part of our team next year.
     
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    I'd keep Jake before hood and it isn't even close. He should be starting. Give Harkless the rest of the year off.
     
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    Not witth having the identical problem in jake now as well. You are right. We needed to make a move last week.
     
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    Do we want new ownership? If Jody really is willing to pay to make the team better and not getting in the way of deals at all then wouldn't we want that to continue as long as possible? A new owner may come in and only care about staying under the tax.
     
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    Same page. :cheers:
     
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    Jokes aside, if we want to pay the tax to keep Layman (even if he signed a max deal) we could keep him because he'll be a restricted free agent. Hood is an unrestricted free agent with no bird rights so unless he signed for the Tax-MLE we really have no chance to keep him.
     
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    Dont know but the least they could do is make it clear she’s gonna keep the team, gotta imagine the ownership in flux doesnt make portland more desireable.
     
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    I know Hood is probably out but I don't care as long as Layman stays.
     
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    I just don't get why that matters unless the "flux" starts to affect the operation of the team. If Jody isn't concerned about taking on salary while trying to sell then that indicates to me that it's not a big deal.
     
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    You dont understand why an athlete wouldnt want to go to a place that doesnt have stable ownership? If Jody made it clear she was going to keep it sure. If its up in the air and agents dont have any idea what direction the franchise is going in I think they would be a little relunctant to have their clients come here.
     
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    Last I remember reading is that she doesn't want to sell in the foreseeable future. I guess we will know when that time ends.
     
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    Ive read several different reports but nothing even close to a qoute from someone that really matters, nothing from Jody, or Vulcan. So until then I think its all kind of guessing.
     
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    we just don't know whether she cares or not, but obviously, Paul cared enough about the tax to approve the Vonleh trade. There may be acceptance that the 2016 spending spree was ill-advised and will result in a year or two of tax. She may not agree to increase that tax bill though. The results of the two recent trades is just about tax neutral

    the rubber will meet the road this summer, then we'll likely know more
     
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    Oh, I don't think that matters one bit. It would be different if it was like the Raiders right now not knowing where the team was gonna play next year but unlike some of the fear mongering going on I don't think the NBA would allow a new owner to move the team so I think that would factor in very little to a decision of a free agent.
     
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    Yeah, in our initial comments we prefaced it by saying "if Olshey was telling the truth" about Jody willing to take on astronomical salary. Of course if she wasn't willing to do so it changes everything.
     
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    I think it would make a huge difference you dont know if a new owner is going to come in and run it like Sterling (just a business doesnt care about winning), or like Paul from 15-20 years ago. Say you’re a mid level Starter on most teams trying to win a championship, are you going to go to the team where you dont know if winning is a priority or not?
     
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    Yeah, because we get so many free agents to come here since Paul Allen wanted to win? I'm sorry but that hasn't mattered for us in free agency for 30 years since Allen bought the team. It's not going to matter now. We have to overpay for free agents. In those cases players are taking the money. They don't really care about the direction of the team.
     
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    No, I honestly don't think our ownership situation has any bearing on whether a player would want to come here. The contracts are guaranteed. And the level of player we would go after is the type of player who won't have a ton of options. Even if we had max money to offer to someone, their decision to sign here (or not) would not hinge upon ownership.
     
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    The only thing that Jody probably cares about (with all the Billions she is now worth) is that Paul bought the Blazers for 70 million and it is now worth 1.6 billion. I doubt she really cares how many playoff games we win this year, because it does not effect the bottom line.
     

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