Arizona: U.S. Congresswomen, 12 others shot, at least 4 dead

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  1. TradeNurkicNow

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    Considering the amount of violent rhetoric that has been permeating our political discourse for the past 2 years, I'm surprised it took this long.
     
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    It hasn't, the FBI has been very good about getting to these people before they reach their targets.

    Sadly they have not stopped all of them:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5392329&mesg_id=5392329

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008030038
     
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    Well, it seems highly likely at this point that she was shot for political reasons, so I'm not sure how you can avoid that.
    If it turns out the shooter is an angry ex-lover of hers, then maybe so.

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    Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

    That's downright silly.

    If the shooter was motivated by the anti-immigration issue, then it is more likely some things she's been saying all along that people on the left and right seem to agree upon equally.
     
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    I think a criminal investigation is called for into Palin and other tea party leaders who have deliberately incited these violent acts.

    The venomous hate they spew is far more dangerous than yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, which can send you to prison.
     
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    Good example of hate speech right in that post there.
     
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    A citizen in her district gives an anecdotal moment from his life this morning.

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/
     
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    Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

    You are being very dense if you honestly believe there has not been an extreme message of hate coming from the right.
     
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    Can you be specific as to what part of his post you are referring?
     
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    Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

    The local news coverage in Arizona is stating that she's had a forceful anti-immigration stance. I think that's an extreme message of hate coming from the left.
     
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    You don't see the broad brush used in his post?
     
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    Giffords warned of this:

    "They really need to realize that the rhetoric and firing people up, and, you know, even things for example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. when people do that, you gotta realize there's consequences to that action."
     
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    [video]http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2n&tag=watchnow[/video]
     
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    I don't see any hate, I see a broad accusation yes.
     
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    They just announced that one of the deaths was that of a child.
     
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    Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

    As always, he'll use the Mad Cow as an excuse.
     
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    What do you see on Fox News that you consider hate, if not broad accusations?
     
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    Broad accusations breed hate, but there is a difference between the two.
     
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    They're saying the shot went "through and through" her head, but they're quite optimistic she's going to survive.

    When you hear "shot in the head," you think of something like the JFK assassination - small hole in one side, large hole where the bullet came out, and shot through the brain.

    We don't know where she was shot - hopefully it went through her jaw and cheeks and nowhere near her brain.

    Fingers crossed.
     
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    Re: U.S. Congresswomen Assassinated

    Consider the source.

    She fully supports the Dream Act, and that's about as Pro-immigration as anyone can be.

    http://giffords.house.gov/2010/12/u...rds-announces-support-for-the-dream-act.shtml
     
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