Arizona: U.S. Congresswomen, 12 others shot, at least 4 dead

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  1. MARIS61

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    Most of what Palin and the teabaggers use to deliver messages in the media comes straight from Hitler's playbook. It's obvious purpose is to inflame the masses to a frenzy, counting on the likelyhood that the ignorant and the mentally unstable will take it to extremes causing mayhem and misery without getting their hands dirty.

    It's cowardly, dishonest, treasonous, and highly effective. And it paints a very clear picture of their character, or lack thereof.
     
  2. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    such as.....???? Difference of opinion? Seems like many on the left are using this to do this:

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  3. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Hitler's "playbook" was to use the Brownshirts to intimidate through violence, assassinate their competition and ensure their voice was the only one heard. Their message was to bring up how incompetent the current government was, and how it shouldn't be allowed to continue that way. But he was speaking from his "playbook" for 10 years with everyone thinking he was a nutjob until one part of his message was proved right (the gov WAS incompetent) and his intimidation plan had gotten rid of anyone calling out his crazy ideas (genocide, rebuilding through conquest, etc.)

    Honestly, I don't care about Olbermann's ranting or Anderson Cooper finding "Christian" nutjobs who don't live out Christianity or Hannity blathering about the godless communist hordes...I care about people being forced to do things they don't want to do and censorship of people calling it out. Last I checked, it wasn't the Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity types trying to reimpose Fairness Doctrine or make people buy health insurance. :dunno:
     
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    Maybe the Tea Partiers are also mad because many "pundits" refer to them as "tea baggers", who are people who enjoy having male scrotums placed on their head/mouth/eyes/etc.
     
  5. EL PRESIDENTE

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    that's really besides the point. This is a case of the guy being a fucking nutjob, nothing more. American media really sickens me. The Pima County sheriff is a piece of shit, spending his time fighting with Rush Limbaugh instead of pursuing the case.
     
  6. barfo

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    male scrotums? What other kinds are there?

    barfo
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Hey, we're in a new society.
     
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    Too many of your points in this thread seem to be based on your emotional response.

    Go ahead and elaborate. How does using this event as an example in trying to address a wider social issue do... whatever it is that you're suggesting it does? Make a media controlling dictatorship? Plan our thinking? Is the loony left trying to control your mind maaaaaan?

    Or are you just copy-pasting whatever Road to Serfdom scan you think vaguely applies to the argument at hand?
     
  10. EL PRESIDENTE

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    They are not related to the wider social issues. The relationship was formed without even examining the shooter. Just the simple fact that the person intended to be shot happened to vote a certain way, people (i.e. the County Sheriff) are blaming right wing commentators, the tea party and Sarah Palin. The end game here is that those in that camp passing the blame are looking to silence those whose ideals they do not agree with.
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

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    I just think its a waste of time to blame the "tea party" or "partisan rhetoric" here. That vehicle is being used to just make more of the political attacks and stratification which those on the left are complaining about in the first place.
     
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    I think it is reasonable to look at the context here. Yes, this dude is crazy. However, the way he chose to express his craziness is not random. He didn't kill his mom, or John Lennon, or his schoolmates, or a prostitute, or you (a random stranger). He chose to kill a politician. Why?

    Sure, because he's crazy, obviously. But why a politician? Seems pretty obvious from his videos that he thought the gummint was oppressing him. How did he get the idea that the gummint was oppressing him?

    Gee, how? I think people lied to him. Not with the goal of having him shoot Giffords, of course. But when you broadcast lies, you can't control who hears them and how they are going to act.

    He wasn't actually being oppressed by the government. But that was an easy thing for him to believe in, since there were so many people telling him lies about how evil the government is.

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    In related news:

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    Here's a thought...you're both right.

    The gun rhetoric is a bit much. The gun rhetoric didn't cause this incident.

    Doesn't mean it shouldn't change.

    Here's a thought...gun control laws!
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    I believe Occam's Razor applies here. It's more likely he committed this act because he's fucked in the head than being pushed by the "climate of hate" created by any political group.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Also, I have to chuckle a little bit when I compare the reaction from the talking heads in regards to this shooting vs. the Fort Hood massacre. With the former, regardless of the evidence that this kid was described as a "left-wing pothead", they're racing to assign blame to a Sarah Palin graphic. With the latter, when the shooter kept yelling "Allahu Akbar", we were told to withhold judgment and not jump to conclusions.

    Hilarious.
     
  18. Ed O

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    I thought about that, too. It's crazy.

    Ed O.
     
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    Its pretty clear that the culture of hate is coming from the left. They are super quick to label, make fun of and mock the tea party and pass blame off rather quickly.
     
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    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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    I agree. God, I hate the left so much. Violently hate those inhuman violent liberals.
     

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