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  1. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    Disagree.

    Giannis is MVP level talent. Dame is a lower-level All-Star. Optimizing Giannis should be the priority.
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Having Giannis bring the ball up was dumb. It wasn't optimizing him. It was stroking his ego.
     
  3. MickZagger

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    I think with the way Giannis plays it’s harder to integrate him into the offense later in the shot clock. He’s not really a stand down in the post and call for the ball type player. He does better when he’s feeling out the game
     
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    Giving Dame the ball would be optimizing Giannis. He's not a point guard.
     
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    Then it's stupid to put a guard like Dame next to him. They should have just kept Jrue since he's a better defender and that's all Giannis will allow his teammates to do.
     
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    Looks like it’s the Celtics year. Giannis and Dame hurt, Heat with no Butler. Knicks with no Randle, Robinson and Brunson with Broken hand. Now Halliburton is hurt, Denver is eliminated. It’s the Celtics year
     
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    Minny or DallAss can beat the Celtics.
     
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    oh I agree. They would have had a better chance to win it all had they kept course.
     
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    I believe you. Can you give me some stock market advice?
     
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    You would have thought they would have had that conversation with Giannis before making the trade...
     
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    Most teams have their best player bring the ball up most of the time.

    Its not stroking ego - its keeping the ball in the best player's hands

    Should Dallas take the ball out of Luka's hands?
    Lakers / LeBron?
    Suns / Durant?
    TWolves / Edwards?
    Nuggets/ Jokic?

    There's lots of examples. I think your opinion of Dame is creating a massive bias here
     
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    100% agree that Bucks should have kept Holiday.

    But that doesn't matter at this point.
     
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    However, keeping Holiday is not maximizing Giannis as a player. Dame is the better guard to get more out of Giannis. But if Giannis isn't willing to do that... it's kind of pointless.
     
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    I have a tendency to agree with this.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dame - 35% three point shooter
    Luka - 38% three point shooter
    LeBron - 41% three point shooter
    Durant - 41% three point shooter
    Edwards - 36% three point shooter
    Jokic - 36% three point shooter

    Giannis - 27% three point shooter

    It's dumb to have him bring the ball up the floor because

    A) He's not the distributor that Dame is. Not even close.

    B) He isn't a threat to shoot the ball beyond the arc.

    All of the players, except for maybe Durant and Edwards, that you listed above are distributors. They have great court vision. Dame is one of the best pick and roll point guards in the league.

    Dame - 7 assists per game / 2 turnovers per game
    Luka - 9.8 assists per game / 4 turnovers per game
    LeBron - 8.3 assists per game / 3.5 turnovers per game
    Durant - 5.0 assists per game / 3.3 turnovers per game
    Edwards - 5.0 assists per game / 3.1 turnovers per game
    Jokic - 9 assists per game / 3 turnovers per game.

    Giannis - 6.5 assists per game / 3.4 turnovers per game

    So looking at that, Dame has a 3.5 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. Giannis is at 1.9 assist to turnover ratio. Dame should be handling the ball. He's a bigger threat from deep. He's better at running an offense. It makes no sense to have Giannis bring the ball up the floor regularly.
     
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    Sota layin' the smack down on Dallas
     
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    Mavs trying to make it a respectable blowout, down 12 at the half.
     
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    Dallas backcourt shooting 30% (subpar)
     
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    Mavs making Twolves sweat, cut 18 point deficit down to 5.
     
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