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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Again, -6
     
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    The goal shouldn't be to be better next season. That is pointless. And we are lucky that Joe doesn't aim at being better next season but in the longer term.
     
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    So they are supposed to "tank" again?
    Seriously you can't have it both ways. You either try to win or you don't. This is getting to be more like the overall expectation with the Blazers now.
    This is exactly what is meant by "Losing Culture". This team and it's fans don't even want to win any longer.
     
  4. Ripcity4life77

    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    The problem now is this very well could be a lost season since the team is up for sale and it's even been said they are only looking to take on expiring deals at this point maybe 2 years remaining IF it makes sense but any longer then that - nope. This season is a transition year but we have no idea what the Blazers are transitioning too since we have NO idea what this new owners desire for winning is cause it could be just make the playoff to what we all hope it will be and that is to try and do what it takes to be a Top 3 team in the west.
     
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    better off
     
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    The goal of the Blazers should be to build a better team by 2028. Vet leaders like Timelord, Thybulle, and Jrue help with that.

    Ayton doesn't.
     
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    Then get a front office who gives a fuck about actually winning instead of being okay with garnering apathetic fans (me) who actually want the team to be the best, not middle of the road, which is what all their moves (Scoot, sharpe, deni, tou) are. Middle of the road support players that cant develop into superstars because they aren't good enough to become that. They are good to somewhat good players, but none of them will be a superstar. And we just need one of them to be that. But none of them will and its obvious, but then we do the CJ and simons treatment where they both fucking suck and we hold on to them for too long. Rinse and repeat.

    Then we become apathetic because we get done being told and sold a fake bill of goods.

    "Like a matador is taunting me with its reddest red cloak and I am the bull
    Yes I feel emphatic about not being static
    And not eating the bullshit thats being fed to me no more
    Cause now im full"

    You can be pissed at me all you want for speaking my peace about it, but im done being told we are gonna be great and every year since covid we have fucking sucked. Theres something to be said about eternal optimism but theres also something to be said about understanding when we are getting the wool pulled over our eyes. At a certain point im going to stop believing what someone else has told me for 5 years because the words aren't meeting the actions.
     
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  8. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    It must be very confusing to you that there are players (Jahlil Okafor, Boban Marjanovic) who, when they play, put up ridiculous per-36 numbers in both scoring and rebounding, and yet can't get a job in the NBA. I mean, go check out highlights of Kenny Lofton Jr.
     
  9. wizenheimer

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    * Portland offensive rating with Ayton on floor: 111.6
    * Portland offensive rating with Ayton off floor: 111.9

    net = -0.3

    * Portland defensive rating with Ayton on floor: 118.4
    * Portland defensive rating with Ayton off floor: 113.6

    net = -4.8....meaning the Blazers were 5.1 points worse with Ayton on the floor

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    * Portland offensive rating with Clingan on floor: 112.3
    * Portland offensive rating with Clingan off floor: 111.5

    net = +0.8

    * Portland defensive rating with Clingan on floor: 112.5
    * Portland defensive rating with Clingan on floor: 116.3

    net = +3.8....meaning the Blazers were +4.6 points better with Clingan on the floor

    if you're keeping track, Portland was 9.7 points better than the opposition with Clingan on the floor instead of Ayton. Defense matters, and the reality is after all the yakyak about Ayton's allegedly better offense, the Blazer offense was slightly better with Clingan than it was with Ayton
     
  10. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Waited for who?
     
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    I think he means Vucevic
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Now this is what I like to see. Realistic look AND EXPECTATIONS at out current roster situation. Some on here who actually believe we are a BETTER team that will win MORE games because DA is gone are the ones I just don’t agree with. If this move is for the betterment of our future, then I’m all for it.
     
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  13. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Ahhh. I believe they would want DA over Vucevic though.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    So you are on record that we are better with DA GONE? With Clingan as our starter with not really sure who are backup would be?
     
  15. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Just answer my question FAMS.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Answer my question FAMS!
     
  17. LayneStaley

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    I will know for sure after I see Yang in a couple SL games but I’m leaning towards yes. Clingan/RW3/Yang/Reath all offer a different skill set and can be productive in stretches and there is no doubting any of their motors. All play hard when on the floor. If CB finds the right rotation for them I don’t see us missing Ayton at all.
     
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    This is exactly what a losing culture is.
    Thank you for making my point.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I can respect this. Regular season is just so different than summer league style wise though. I just can’t get out of my head that if DC is starting and he either picks up 2 quick ones or is dead tired 5 minutes into the game, then what? Love the DA/Clingan combo much better.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You think that drafting Scoot and Shae was middle of the road moves?
     

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